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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 23 of 230 (387253)
02-27-2007 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by crashfrog
02-25-2007 12:27 AM


considering that 9 out of 10 women who are raped never report it, this is a terrible policy.
Rather than be bogged down by chasing down rapes that they suspected were fabricated, police would probably investigate rape less than they already do now. Many, many more rapists would get away with their crimes.
i agree. if she didn't want it, she wouldn't have grown a vagina.

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Message 24 of 230 (387254)
02-27-2007 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by RAZD
02-25-2007 12:38 PM


Re: Who is ...
this is not the thread to discuss the justifications of abortion.
also, your personal definition of rape doesn't matter. the legal definition of rape as forced sexual relations does. i've never heard of a woman being literally fucked by her baby. a procreative relationship=/=a sexual relationship.
also, i noticed your definition doesn't allow for men being raped.

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Message 25 of 230 (387255)
02-27-2007 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by nator
02-25-2007 9:06 PM


Re: Probability
i think it is very important to discuss the legal ramifications of this.
so in this scenario, we place a traumatized child into a cell with hardened criminals to be further molested and traumatized. how is this justice in any form? is god so callous that he demands this?
what will the makeup of our jails be after this?
does this influence rehabilitation programs? if we used religion to make these laws, do we mandate that these murderous women become nuns before we allow them to be paroled?
is this an offense with no chance of parole? even rapists can be released for good behavior. what about baby killers? clearly if we let them go, they're gonna go shoot up our preschools...
do we pass laws which prevent these people from getting financial aid for college like we do for pot heads since they're such dangerous criminals completely devoid of human value?

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Message 35 of 230 (387333)
02-27-2007 11:29 PM
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02-27-2007 10:39 PM


Re: Who is ...
hijacking is the word you're looking for, not rape.

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Message 55 of 230 (387491)
02-28-2007 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by FliesOnly
02-28-2007 11:29 AM


Re: Probability
when my mother miscarried in 1980, they investigated her to make sure she hadn't done it on purpose... and this was with legal abortions.

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Message 56 of 230 (387492)
02-28-2007 7:02 PM
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02-28-2007 12:42 PM


Re: let's interject some facts
studies are of the devil!!!
especially yours.
we've been discussing the fact that abortion rates and unplanned pregnancy rates are directly related to quality sex education and contraceptive availability and use. they have ignored it since day one.

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Message 57 of 230 (387496)
02-28-2007 7:18 PM
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02-28-2007 4:25 PM


Re: Probability
Is there any difference from being dismembered in the womb than there is a woman who gives birth and throws their baby in a dumpster? If you say, no, then why?
you say that as though there's any members to dis. most abortions happen before there are any members.
13 year olds don't go to jail for life. They serve a sentence in juvenile detention centers and then when they come of age, they are either released, serve parole, or are recommended to the adult prison system.
HA!
When a madman stabs a pregnant woman in the stomach, killing both mother and child, he is charged with double-homicide, is he not?
thanks to laws passed by pro-lifers for the specific purpose of making this argument. what does the bible say about a man who kills a pregnant woman or causes her to miscarry?
Where then is the line of demarcation for becoming a human?
birth.
Perhaps she would have been better off being torn limb from limb.
probably, considering the horrible psychological disfunctions caused by abandonment issues. visitation or not. but this isn't an argument unless every pro-lifer volunteers to adopt every child destined for abortion. do you know how many children are in the system? until there are no children waiting for homes, this arguments is flawed.

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Message 88 of 230 (387694)
03-02-2007 1:11 AM
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03-01-2007 12:57 AM


Re: Probability
phenomenal.
thank you.

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Message 89 of 230 (387695)
03-02-2007 1:16 AM
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03-01-2007 8:07 PM


take one weekend a year to be an escort. you should be able to get some info from planned parenthood about that. they walk women through the crowds of protesters in an effort to give them a little of their dignity back.
also, it is enough that you speak. you might not convince nj, but you might change the mind of a lurker. and then we have one more who might be able to volunteer or otherwise. never forget the value of teaching and inspiration.
Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

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