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AZPaul3
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Message 84 of 230 (387668)
03-01-2007 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Hyroglyphx
03-01-2007 1:01 PM


What countries? U.S. history.
Secondly, you've neglected to relay any information about what happens in countries that criminalize abortion. So how can I have ignored that which was never presented in the first place?
It has been a while, but, abortion has not always been legal in this country. The horrors of back-street abortions were one of the reasons most states liberalized their anti-abortion laws.
This all occurred decades prior to anything like the internet and I'm too lazy to go google to see if any of the old horror stories and statistics are out there. Newspaper archives from the 50's and 60's will be full of them, however.

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AZPaul3
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Message 222 of 230 (389205)
03-11-2007 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by Hyroglyphx
03-03-2007 2:41 AM


Re: What countries? U.S. history.
All of which was their choice in most cases, good sir. No one forced them to get pregnant and no one forced them to shove sharp objects inside their cervix. So if you don't mind, please spare me the sympathetic hyperbole of the "horrors" of back alley abortions as if it were justification for the horrors of abortion.
I wish I could find the time to search the news archives. When I was growing up in the Great State of Iowa the “horror stories” were rampant in the press and on the News. Juxtaposed with a liberalizing abortion bill pending in the State Senate the pro-choice groups (before they were even call “pro-choice”) were pulling out all the stops. These “horror stories” were used to justify their position. I was there. I experienced it.
One very special group of stories stay with me still. There used to be (mostly) religiously run “Homes for Wayward Girls.” The stories of whippings for those who did not pray adequately, chains on beds to keep the girls from “wondering into sinfulness,” just set me off. I used to think it was such a waste to not have one of those homes over my back fence where I could meet and “console” these poor souls. I was 14, what can I say.
Your incredulity not withstanding the arguments were made and were successful.
Your view that abortion is murder is not shared by all. In fact, it was not shared by a significant percentage of Iowa voters back then. I do not share it now.
Your view that adoption is the better alternative is great. Go out and convince the public. Set the example. Have you adopted?
I recognize that our differences on this issue stem from our differing world views. Yours is religious. Mine is not. So let the Great Debate continue.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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