Should the Public Airwaves be More or Less Censored?

How would I know if you are a parent or not?
Why are you getting so defensive? I guess you are not really a parent then, and would not understand the complexity's of having both parents trying to work to provide for the family, and having enough time to take the kids to little league practice, cook dinner, clean the house, and watch them every second they are watching TV.

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I guess you are not really a parent then, and would not understand the complexity's of having both parents trying to work to provide for the family, and having enough time to take the kids to little league practice, cook dinner, clean the house, and watch them every second they are watching TV.

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Yes, it is difficult to manage all that.But you chose this life, with all these kids, didn't you?You also chose to have a TV in your home, didn't you?If you don't like what is on TV, but are too harried and busy to have time to "watch them every second they are watching TV", then maybe you should get rid of that unneccessary luxury item.It's all a matter of priorities, wouldn't you agree?(Or, perhaps you should just finally admit that you don't want to get rid of TV because YOU like having it and you don't want to give it up even if your kids see things on it you don't want them do.)
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Of course I like TV, and I hate it at the same time. I just want better control over what I see, and what my kids see.The rest of your post speaks of choices. One of my choices is to want TV that is more censored. But I also don't want to seem unAmerican, and be attacking our freedom of speech.
I grew up in a world where the FCC regulates TV, so to me this is perfectly American. Maybe the government, and the people who elect the governement, see this as a positive thing. After all a lot of common decency has gone out the window, and it is now fashonable to insult people.Communications Decency Act - WikipediaObviously there is a problem when trying to control this censorship, while not enfringing on freedom of speech.
Just like trying to cut-off terrorism by spying on our own people, and not enfringe on our privacy.The world is not as simple these days, that is for sure.Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

Giving that control to the FCC seems stupid then. Afterall, you want that power.Anyhow, fairly simple, no? You want better control? You've got a V-chip (i would hope). You've got a remote. You can limit what your kids watch without having to be there. Control over what you see is simple enough--change the channel if you don't like what's on. I mean jeez, how difficult is this?

V-chip does not always work. I do have that power, I can rent or buy anything that I wish for my kids to see. I don't need my kids to happen to catch something, every now and then, that I don't expect them to see, on the channel they are watching.Tell me, would you do antything if you found out your neighbor was showing adult films to his 6 year old?

do you have satellite or cable tv? if so, deselect those channels you find offensive.I should add. Air bags don't always work. Should we stop using them, then? Seat belts don't always work. Stop using them too? Poor argument, rat. no. it's not my business. that said, if he was attemtping to show my child porn, I would prevent that. please note, I'm not a parent--only 19, but were I a parent, that would be my course of action.but I really don't see what this has to do with your issue--unless you want to control what other parent's kids watch. You just want to control what your kid's watch. Here's another solution--"no tv while we're not here".

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Tell me, would you do antything if you found out your neighbor was showing adult films to his 6 year old?

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No.If I found out he was letting the 6 year old watch Top Gun, though, I think I'd take him aside and confront him about it.

It has never, not once, been conclusively shown that seeing "boobies" damages children in any way. As a matter of fact, the same can be said for violence in games and TV/movies.There's another word for "common sense." It;s called an "argument from incredulity." It's also a logical fallacy.Seeing that ad for Desperate Housewives did not damage your children any more than American Idol or any other crap on TV. If you don't want your kids to see it, that's fine, and we can all respect your decision to isolate, er, protect them from the real world. But until you can show conclusive, scientific, experiment-based evidence PROVING that these forms of entertainment are damaging beyond your asinine gut reaction based on nothing more than your preconceived notions, I'll be damned before I concede that you, tjhe FCC, or anyone else should be able to bend the Constitution and make that decision for MY kids!

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to be fair, i'm sure a number of adults did the same thing. or at least wanted to.

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Last week's New Scientist had a big feature on this. Lots of studies, with fMRIs and everything, were mentioned. I don't have a copy though.

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Ah but you are so wrong.Here is one study done a year ago.
Parents Television CouncilA Christian view on it, that claims to base this article on a scientific study, from journel Science?
Mounting evidence links TV viewing to violence - CSMonitor.comAs a matter of fact, right this very morning a 3 year study was released By some group for the FCC (I think I got that right was half asleep when they annouced it)that violence on TV does affect the people who watch it. It was announced on CNN, and the FCC will be using that to further censore the airwaves. The trick is doing that without enfringing the first ammendment. Yes, I am concerned for all our youth. And if my neighbor was showing porn to a 6 year old, you bet I would call social services in about a half a heartbeat.

The first link you mention is just a catalogue of the violence in children's television. It mentions nothing at all about the effects of the violence. It simply assumes that it's harmful but doesn't support that assumption.Your second link was a mixed bag, with no clear link either way.Some excerpts from your link: Media awareness, rat. You know, that "supervision" and "guidence" that we've been talking about in this thread.To my thinking, parents should be doing that.You seem to want the government to do it for you. So, regardless of what the kids watched, they were more aggressive if they watched more TV.

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Yes, I am concerned for all our youth. And if my neighbor was showing porn to a 6 year old, you bet I would call social services in about a half a heartbeat.

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If one of your 6 year olds ever walked in on you and your wife in an intimate moment, should we call social services on you?If your neighbor took their 6 year old to a museum that had nude art, would you call social services on them?If your neighbor had their 6 year old watch a sex education program that included nudity and depictions of the sex act, would you call social services on them?Edited by nator, : No reason given.Edited by nator, : No reason given.Edited by nator, : No reason given.

no, annoyed. see this is what i'm talking about, cheers to you! you make it sound like you are a martyr for being a parent.
sorry but this is what you get for having kids, if you don't like the tv get rid of it, or accept it.honesty i swear everyone of these arguments turn out the same way.
nonparents don't want parents to dictating what should and should not be shown in the media
parents complain about how their children shouldn't see such things, because there might be some off chance it effects them more than the parent wants, so they tell the non-parent "you can only understand when you are a parent!"heres the way you do it, don't have tv, buy lots of kids dvds, cover them in foam rubber, glue them to the floor, and never let them leave their rooms, maybe then they won't have any bad influences from tv or other people

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but I really don't see what this has to do with your issue--unless you want to control what other parent's kids watch.

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Yes, I am concerned for all our youth. And if my neighbor was showing porn to a 6 year old, you bet I would call social services in about a half a heartbeat.

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Hey rat, that quote is from me, not ravhin. can't find it anyhwere in his post that you reply to. However, that's definitely in my post which you never replied to.Just wanted to let people know.