Dangerous pro-choice extremists?

I have provided several links indicting them on very serious criminal charges ...

scuttled two ships ... damage(d) the Icelandic whaling station

arson attack on research facilities at Michigan State University

release of mink from a nearby MSU mink research farm, wrecking equipment and opening animals' cages

dismantling a lion trap and spreading mountain lion urine

felony conspiracy to interfere with or injure a government official, misdemeanor interference with or injury to a forest officer, and misdemeanor depredation (theft or destruction or the attempt to do so) of government property

demonstrating the use of a destructive device

The 65-count indictment alleges the defendants committed acts of domestic terrorism between 1996 and 2001 in Oregon, Wyoming, Washington, California, and Colorado. Specifically, the indictment includes charges related to arson, conspiracy, use of destructive devices, and destruction of an energy facility.

These aren't acts of vandalism, these are serious felonies.

Suppose somebody left three piddly devices of unexploded ordinance at an abortion clinic... You don't think there would be hell to pay?

wiki writes:In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[5]* March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of the year before. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
* June 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings, received a death sentence, and was executed September 3, 2003.
* December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in a clinic attack in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[6] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He committed suicide in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
* January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama died when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
* October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot dead at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

wiki writes:According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[8] The attempted murders were:[9][10][5]* August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence.
* June 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
* December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the same-day shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
* December 18, 1996: Dr. Calvin Jackson of New Orleans, Louisiana was stabbed 15 times, losing 4 pints of blood. Donald Cooper was charged with second-degree attempted murder and sentenced to 20 years.[11]
* October 28, 1997: A physician whose name has not been revealed was shot in his home in Rochester, New York.
* January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.
* September 11, 2006 David McMenemy attempted a suicide bombing of a women's clinic in Davenport, Iowa after scouting targets throughout the Midwest. It was later revealed that the targeted clinic did not perform or make referrals for abortions.Anthrax threatsThe first letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the Slepian shooting, and since then, there have been a total of 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare on December 3, 2003.

wiki writes:According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[8] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[13] More recent incidents have included:[5]* October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.
* May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire on resulted in damage estimated at US$20,000.
* October 1, 2000: A Catholic priest drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being shot at by a security guard.
* June 11, 2001: A bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington on destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages
* July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson.
* December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year.
* April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device. [14]
* May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[15]
* December 6, 2007: Two unidentified persons set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Albuquerque, New Mexico. [16]

Yet oddly, pro-life people who do that are called terrorists.

If a pro-life conservative uses a bomb against someone, he's a terrorist.

Then what IS terrorism?

Not the point.

Why is that NONE OF THEM are willing to answer any of these types of questions?It's like the mentality of "if it didn't happen to me, it's not terrorism" is rampant here.

Will you state that none of the people on this list are terrorists in the isolated context of abortion clinic bombings?

So the act of placing potential booby traps to harm or kill workers is not an act of terrorism?

Actually I believe the OP did that, citing off the previous thread. I was just agreeing with him.

The ELF premeditated the placing of the spikes, for political reasons, against noncombatant targets by sub-national groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.Whether or not it actually kills anyone is irrelevant.

Those definitions would dictate that many military actions, including Allied efforts in WWII and even the war of independence were terrorist actions (Dresden for example).

By that logic, if a million independent people all did that, none of them would be terrorists?

But your definitions are clearly terrible.

Still, I like the GS one the best.terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against people or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives. (JCS Pub 1-02)

Therefore as long as the protesting does not include threats of violence (and those must be reasonably backed up with capabilities as noted under the limits of free speech), their acts are in no way terroristic.

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against people or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives. (JCS Pub 1-02)

Why post a definition if you won't accept it?

Terrorism: Premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by sub-national groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience (Title 22 of the United States Code, Section 2656f(d)).

What the hell are you talking about?

I already cited where I got that ...

... and I didn't even make it.

Message 78 writes:Yet oddly, pro-life people who do that are called terrorists.

No they aren't.

... then you minimized the other one's (sic)

Homemade bomb explodes in Louisiana high school
Amarillo Globe-News

Its (sic) all about motive.

What would you know about it?

Maybe they have and you are unaware of it.

The link I provided merely cites incidents of arson or crime against abortion clinics.

Considering that anti abortionist nuts have killed abortion providers and employees... Considering that there is a 30 year history of kidnapping and death threats... Considering that there is a 30 year history of 91 bombings/arsons... ... why do you suppose that the FBI has NOT chosen to call this activity "domestic terrorism"?