Brokeback Mountain

holmes writes me:

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If a man sets out to seduce another man, who is not necessarily gay and indeed is married (and from what you suggest had been at least at some point passionately married), how is he not considered a sexual predator? That is putting his own desires above the good of others, right?

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I suppose it could be, but you're incorrect on a crucial point. Ennis was not married, passionately or otherwise, before meeting Jack. He had been courting Alma, but as I said the short story leaves little question that Ennis never had much passion for her (you must have misread me). The movie makes the point pretty clear also, just not quite as explicitly as does the story. In the movie, Ennis tells Jack about his impending marriage long before anything happens between them, and he speaks of it in the same way one might speak of an impending road trip to visit in-laws for whom one has only a lukewarm affection.Given the situation you describe I would concede that the label 'predator' might apply, but it doesn't apply to Jack Twist.

Yep, misread. For some reason I transposed something. Makes sense, and is not exactly predatory... though its not so honest either.Then again, what hetero romance picture has honest characters in it?

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

There appears to be a lot of pent up demand to see this pic, and this is the weekend when it finally opens wide.  It'll be on over 1,000 screens today as it makes it to places like Tuscaloosa and Montgomery, Alabama, and Hattiesburg, Mississippi.  My favorite part of the expansion:  Tupelo, Mississippi!  That would be the same Tupelo, Mississippi that is home to the American Family Association.  I never dreamed it would go there.But check this listing from Cinemark Tupelo.  Note that BBM is not marked NEW.  That should mean that it opened last week, the same day it opened in Jackson.If that's true, it must follow that there's enough interest in this movie - in a small Mississippi town that is home to one of the most rabid fundamentalist Christian organizations in the country - for it to continue for a second week.  I'm stunned.It continues to play strong in Jackson with almost no advertising.AbE: Oh yeah, almost forgot: It's the number one picture in the country at the moment.This message has been edited by berberry, 01-20-2006 09:21 AM

oh god. warning for everyone. don't scroll down on that last link. between the trolls and the phobes and the millitant anti-breeders it's like a mouth breather orgy.blech. just read the article and move on.This message has been edited by brennakimi, 01-20-2006 10:47 AM

I know that this was addressed to berberry, but since I just saw the movie yesterday, I though I'd put in my two cents worth.
While watching the film, I was trying to decide the about that scene. Personally, based on the tone, delivery, and attitude of Jacks wife, I think that the scene depicted the actual method of his death, and that they both knew it. She obviously knew he was gay, was upset about it, and was completely lying on the phone the Ennis. I think that Jack died a violent death was obvious . both to her and to Ennis . we (the audience) were simply shown how he died.However, the bedroom scene at Jacks parents house was certainly the most powerful scene in the entire movie.Actually, the most powerful scene for me is one I projected myself. I left the theater wondering about what came next for Ennis. Does he ever go back to Brokeback ( I think yes)? Does he take the articles of clothing with him. Does he return to Jacks parents house for his ashes (is that what his mother meant when she told Ennis that she hopes he comes back some day...that she wants him to come back for the ashes?).I picture Ennis one day heading back all by himself. I see him getting out of his pickup truck and walking over next to the river. He sits down, holding the shirt, and stares off, dreaming and thinking of that day so many years ago...and what could have been and what now never will be. Tears well up, tears that will probably never end.I do that to a lot of movies. I project forward a bit and try to come up with a satisfactory, preferably happy, ending. I can’t do that with this one. No matter how hard I try, I can’t get my own image of Ennis all alone at Brokeback Mountain out of my head.Oh well, it’s just a movie . right.

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I do that to a lot of movies. I project forward a bit and try to come up with a satisfactory, preferably happy, ending. I can’t do that with this one. No matter how hard I try, I can’t get my own image of Ennis all alone at Brokeback Mountain out of my head.

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I think we all do that, whether consciously or not. Although it's hard to imagine anything but unhappiness for Ennis, one hopes that he might at least be able to find some sort of satisfaction and resolution for his life, perhaps through his kids and grandkids.And now to switch gears, my favorite BBM joke:Why do cowboys wear chaps? Because chiffon wrinkles.

Er...your chiffon is showing.Anyway, chiffon irritates my inner thighs. Silk and satin for me, friend--cotton in a pinch. Of course, I'm more hick than cowboy.We'll be seeing BBM this weekend, and I'm steeling myself, being easily traumatized by movies. After seeing "The Deer Hunter" I couldn't enter a theater for five years.

I feel your pain. "Lady and the Tramp" damn near did that to me.

The American Family Association (or something like that) has issued a warning to Walmart that if it doesn't stop selling Brokeback DvD's they will start boycotting Walmart. Seeing in the past how Walmart had caved in to pressure from the same special interest groups, I wonder if it will cave in again for this threat.

I would place my bet with "yes". I dispise Walmart for so many reasons, this sort of crap being just one of them.

Just drawing your attention to this message.

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