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Utopia
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Message 1 of 300 (366906)
11-29-2006 4:43 PM


This is just a thread for EvCers to list their most controversial opinions. Whether these opinions are worthy of futher debate is up to the community to decide. It's my hope that some opinions will spark posters to create new threads based on these opinions. It's also my hope that posters won't use this as an opportunity to spew hatred and bigotry!
I'll start...
1) I think time flows in both directions. We just haven't learned how to receive signals sent from the future
2) I think the integrated circuit board is reverse-engineered alien technology from whatever crashed in Roswell N.M.
3) I don't think O.J. did it. I think his oldest son did.
4) I think Heaven and Hell are only as real as we make them.
5) I think there's life on Europa. (More of a hope than an opinion I guess)
6) I think people are initially good. Fear and laziness is what makes us "fall from grace"
Greg P.
NOTE TO ADMINS: I think this belongs in the "Coffee Shop", but if you know of a better location go ahead and put it there.
Edited by Utopia, : No reason given.

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Message 2 of 300 (366935)
11-29-2006 6:22 PM


Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.
added by edit:
I quite like this idea. I would request that anyone posting here include at lease ONE controversial opinion they hold, even if they're only replying to other posters.
If any more in-depth discussion results over a particular opinion, please open a new thread for it so this one doesn't get too overcrowded.
Edited by AdminIRH, : added info

Taz
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Message 3 of 300 (366946)
11-29-2006 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Utopia
11-29-2006 4:43 PM


(1) I think if we relax on issues of nudity and sex that many of our societal problems, including unwanted pregnancy and rape, would finally be solved. By relax, I mean natural exposures of nudity and sex to people of ALL ages, including children.
(2) I think people should be liscenced to breed, vote, carry arms, and raise children. Simply put, I have no faith in open democracy.
(3) I think certain ethnic groups are underrepresented. When was the last time you saw a hollywood made movie where the asian hero of the story got the girl? A friend of mine pointed this out to me while I was in college. Since then, I started paying attention and found that he's completely correct.
(4) I think Harry Potter is boring. Heck, I think LOTR is boring.
(5) I think they should relax a little on copyright laws regarding music, software, and movies. I payed big bucks for visual c++ .net, damn it, and I should be able to install it as many times as I want. As it turned out, I could only install it a few times before it becomes useless.
(6) Holloween should be a month long thing rather than just a single day. People should be encouraged to have more fun in life!
(7) Our founding fathers never intended for this country to have political parties and professional politicians. They intended for our country to have ordinary but intelligent people to hold public office for a few years and then step down for others to take their places. Instead, we are getting millionaire and billionaire dumbasses, hypocrites, and opportunists as our representatives. Perhaps it's about time we hold a second revolution?

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nator
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Message 4 of 300 (366960)
11-29-2006 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Taz
11-29-2006 6:59 PM


Is rape less common in places where people are more relaxed about nudity and sex?

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crashfrog
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Message 5 of 300 (366965)
11-29-2006 7:39 PM


1) I think physics, chemistry, and mathematics are "fake" sciences in that they do not study the natural world, but rather, study simplified mathematical models about it.
2) I'm tired of hearing about the Holocaust. It's usually invoked as an excuse for Israel to do whatever it wants. As a historical event, it happened, and people who say otherwise should be opposed; but there's no additional need to have "awareness" of it.
3) Religion is pretty much ridiculous.
4) Firefly was a pretty crappy show. The Serenity movie was ok but they killed everybody I had a half-interest in watching. Joss Whedon is a douche.

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Utopia
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Message 6 of 300 (366967)
11-29-2006 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by nator
11-29-2006 7:27 PM


In a word: YES
Greg P.

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Taz
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Message 7 of 300 (366968)
11-29-2006 7:44 PM
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11-29-2006 7:27 PM


I have no idea.

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dwise1
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Message 8 of 300 (366980)
11-29-2006 8:30 PM


Evolution does not start and stop, but rather is continual.
Statis is an effect of evolutionary processes, as much as change is. So when a population is in statis, evolution is as much at work -- perhaps much more so -- as it is in a population that is changing.
Evolution is not so much processes and forces working on life, but rather it is a natural consequence of how individuals procreate within their populations. It's just simply how life works. Even if there were no such thing as evolution, populations would still evolve as they had and as they continue to do.
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docpotato
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Message 9 of 300 (366983)
11-29-2006 8:50 PM


I'm in total agreement with David Cronenberg:
"As an artist, one is not a citizen of society. An artist is bound to explore every aspect of human experience, the darkest corners- not necessarily-- but if that is where one is led, that's where one must go.
You cannot worry about what the structure of your own particular
segment of society considers bad behavior, good behavior; good
exploration, bad exploration. So, at the time you're being an artist, you're not a citizen. You have, in fact, no social responsibility whatsoever."

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Coragyps
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Message 10 of 300 (366994)
11-29-2006 9:49 PM


Maybe not my most controversial - hell, just voting for a Democrat causes controversy out here in this godforsaken reactionary hellhole - but:
The comedies of The Three Stooges were, besides being often very funny, some of the finest pro-proletarian literature ever made.

iceage 
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Message 11 of 300 (366999)
11-29-2006 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Utopia
11-29-2006 4:43 PM


Major Leage
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kuresu
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Message 12 of 300 (367021)
11-30-2006 2:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Utopia
11-29-2006 4:43 PM


is it possible for a person to "be" nowhere? because that's what utopia means in its original language--greek.
(by be, I mean as in being, not as in location)
most controversial opinion? at this moment, it could be that I think japan needs to get a real military and get a nuke.
I also think that Cardinal Richeliue was alive during the 30 years war (which my poly sci professor didn't seem to agree with)
Oh, and that cuis regio, eius religio (all spelled wrong) was established in 1555 (around then) instead of 1648.
(this is exactly why poly sci people need to know correct history. how the hell are you supposed to draw patterns from past behavior to today's behavior and predict what might happen if you've the wrong history?)

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arachnophilia
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Message 13 of 300 (367027)
11-30-2006 4:08 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by crashfrog
11-29-2006 7:39 PM


1) I think physics, chemistry, and mathematics are "fake" sciences in that they do not study the natural world, but rather, study simplified mathematical models about it.
or rather, religions. mathematicians readily admit it's a religious idea, based on the faith in their initial axioms.
2) I'm tired of hearing about the Holocaust. It's usually invoked as an excuse for Israel to do whatever it wants. As a historical event, it happened, and people who say otherwise should be opposed; but there's no additional need to have "awareness" of it.
well, there is, but only so it doesn't happen again. so i'll throw my controversial corollary into the mix: the nation most likely to commit the next holocaust is israel. when one examines some zionist propaganda, it reads a lot like nazism from time to time. the only difference is that the jews posed no real threat to germany, but the palestinians really have bombs.
3) Religion is pretty much ridiculous.
as a religous person, i am forced to agree.
4)... Joss Whedon is a douche.
speaking of which, allow to reiterate exactly how much his script for alien: resurrection blew. it made alien 3 (with 13 rejected drafts, and a shooting script written during shooting) look like a classic, and avp look decent. it butchered the greatest alien comic ever drawn. i wrote a similar treatment when i was 12. it's that bad.
everytime someone in hollywood goes "i know, let's give the script treatment to joss whedon!" they should be slapped with a copy of buffy the vampire slayer. and then copies of every single episode of the tv show.
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arachnophilia
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Message 14 of 300 (367029)
11-30-2006 4:15 AM


i not only fail to see the supposed difference between humans and other animals, i also think most people are generally dumber than my cats. the only thing that makes us something more than mere monkeys is our technology (especially razors), which de-centralizes knowledge, and possibly even makes us stupider. no one person can do much of anything, if you really think about it. and 90% of the people out there can't even use the technology we've got, let alone explain how it works or construct something like it themselves.
i think the fact that humans are really stupid pack animals explains quite a lot about society as a whole.
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ekman
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Message 15 of 300 (367065)
11-30-2006 10:31 AM


quote:
4) Firefly was a pretty crappy show. The Serenity movie was ok but they killed everybody I had a half-interest in watching. Joss Whedon is a douche.
*gasp*
Blasphemy!
Concur with the controversial opinion that "religion is ridiculous."
I think most recreational drugs should be legal, and that the war on drugs is a waste of money and effort. Legalizing them would undercut the drug economy, and the money spent on pursuing, prosecuting, and ultimately warehousing drug users (most of the "war on drugs") would be better spent on public treatment programs.
I am pro-death penalty, but do think it is implemented haphazardly and unfairly.
Edited by ekman, : clarification

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