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Author Topic:   Media Reform: Systemic Change & Individual Integrity
Silent H
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Message 6 of 19 (273431)
12-28-2005 6:23 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by jar
12-27-2005 4:08 PM


As long as news is considered a profit center and not a civic duty, I expect there to be no changes.
I do agree that the ability of profit motive to influence reporting is a major problem, but I have to note that that is more an indictment of the people of the United States than the individuals running for profit media companies.
If there was profit in good reporting, then most companies would follow demand. Apparently most people only want infotainment (at best) and so that is where the profit is. Facts should not be followed to conclusion, but rather "debates" to their conclusion (which is yelling and screaming with more to follow later).
The journalists now must keep these "debates" alive through pretense that all sides must simply be heard and not accurately fact or logic checked. And if any facts might overtly injure one side, especially a very powerful side, then it must be kept out of the debate.
We can all fault the media moguls and journalists for not having the sense of civic duty that they should have, but that is to shift the burden off the shoulders of the much greater force who have lost their sense of civic duty.
I agree with Brenna, one of the best sources of news today is the Dailyshow, with BBC coming in next, tied (pretty much) with CNN Europe. It is ironic that a purely comedic entertainment enterprise surpasses most purported news outlets.
The rest look more or less like Jerry Springer or something out of 1984. And that is what the masses want. Eternal argument.
This message has been edited by holmes, 12-28-2005 06:26 AM

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Silent H
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Message 8 of 19 (273489)
12-28-2005 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Tal
12-28-2005 10:34 AM


Now I submit a BLOG written by my friend Francis Marion Francis is on these boards
I was interested in writing for his blog, and he suggested he was interested in having me. But he never contacted me. Is he still interested, or is that idea dead?
As he pointed out, most of the time reporters don't just report what they see, they see something and make a guess as to what actually happened, then spin it to sell more commericals/magazines/newspapers.
As much as I agree stories can be slanted by any side, I wasn't seeing the point of the blog's story. It seemed that there were some minor factual inaccuracies, but nothing amounting to spin to sell anything. The inaccurate pieces seemed as boring as the real one.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Silent H
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Message 18 of 19 (274169)
12-30-2005 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Omnivorous
12-30-2005 9:29 AM


It is not merely that the great unwashed prefer junk news; the media have become propaganda organs for the propertied elite, and the present bread-and-circuses state of affairs is both a consequence and a distraction. This media whore wasn't summoned; s/he was pimped.
I agree in large part with this description. It is a vicious circle.
Poverty breeds ignorance which those seeking power use to breed more ignorance and so more poverty which breeds not only ignorance but a culture that desires more ignorance... a class which demands the blinders, carrot, and whip those in charge are more than willing to supply.
I like whores so I'm not so comfortable with the analogy, but I guess to go with it I'd revise it slightly to read:
This media whore wasn't just summoned, she was pimped as well.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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