The New Pearl Harbor

When I first read about this exercise that Visor were doing my immediate reaction was that it seemed an incredibly unlikely coincidence.When I thought about it a bit more I came to the conclusion I didn't have anything remotely like enough information to have even a feel for whether it is a likely coincidence or not.I've no idea how many companies offer these sort of disaster planning services, how many companies buy them, what percentage of the plans offered include Tube bombings, how frequently the exercises are carried out - basically I don't have any of the numbers needed to even start looking at the odds. In truth I don't have anything at all beyond my gut feel and/or personal incredulity on which decide whether it is a likely coincidence or not.

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Oops! Wrong Planet

The book is NOT discussing the current attacks. Please stop!.

I don't think a coffee shop thread needs that sort of heavy-handedness when a well-behaved, tangential discussion is occurring.

General Reply.One of the jobs of the Department of Defense (and its foreign equivelants) is to conduct excercises on what they predict will be a near term conflict/scenario/situation. It makes sense. Back in the Cold War DoD conducted excercises to practice countering the threat of Russia.Let's take a look at General Schwarzkopf practiced in 1990 before the Gulf War. linkIf you ask me the fact that these excercises are going on near the time of the events tells us that these agencies are doing their job.So how would you conspiracy theorists spin Operation Internal Look? It was the US that made Saddam invade Kuwait so we could out him and thereby make friends with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait for oil?Yeaaaahhh man..that's the stuff...This message has been edited by Tal, 07-18-2005 10:28 AM

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I helped scare an old person-I stopped someone from keeping more of their money-So what if people want to have say in the places they live and the cars that they drive-I gave money to an environmental group that helped keep us dependant on foreign oil-I help the enemies of democracy get stronger by telling them laws don’t matter-What if one day I need an abortion-Sex with an intern, everybody does it-I help teach kids around America that America is always wrongDo you know what your DNC stands for?

Not "near the time." Exactly at the time. No, but it was the US, specifically ambassaor April Glaspie, who told him that he could.Oh, you didn't know that, did you? Yeah, just one more thing you won't learn on Fox Spews, Tal.

Need a source cup cake. Maybe its from See BS? That means the organizations were on the money. You should be giving them credit. Excercise Internal Look was on the money too. In fact, some of the real reports from what was going on in the real world looked just like the excercise reports. The only difference was the word "EXCERCISE" written on the top.

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I helped scare an old person-I stopped someone from keeping more of their money-So what if people want to have say in the places they live and the cars that they drive-I gave money to an environmental group that helped keep us dependant on foreign oil-I help the enemies of democracy get stronger by telling them laws don’t matter-What if one day I need an abortion-Sex with an intern, everybody does it-I help teach kids around America that America is always wrongDo you know what your DNC stands for?

Try the New York Times, September 23, 1990, in which Glaspie was reported as telling Saddam:

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But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late '60s. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America.

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In other words "yeah, we know it's just a little border dispute, so no, we won't get involved. Promise." Yes, exactly they were right on the money. They were right on the money because they were ordered to hold those drills at that time by people who [/i]knew about the attacks."That was the whole point, remember? Credit for getting duped and facilitating an attack that cost the lives of 3,000 Americans? Why do you hate America so much, Tal?This message has been edited by crashfrog, 07-19-2005 07:23 PM