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Message 76 of 161 (207995)
05-14-2005 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by macaroniandcheese
05-14-2005 8:29 AM


I had a discussion with my english teacher,
I disagree how much influence should be put on the methods, I feel it should just come from the heart and sound how it wants to sound.
In have a question though:
Did Bob Dylan use a certain form or did he just write it?

listen to phil collins and nas

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Message 77 of 161 (207999)
05-14-2005 8:47 AM
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05-14-2005 8:42 AM


You are up early,Bro..or wait...its 8:47 in your state...still early tho..Can I jump in on the conversation?
CSP writes:
I disagree how much influence should be put on the methods, I feel it should just come from the heart and sound how it wants to sound.
Kind of like rap?
BTW this looks like the best of the 5 or 6 googles that I pulled up:
http://punkhart.com/dylan/reviews/
What do I know about music, tho? I know what I like...so Proph is like Hendrix, eh? I remember when I was hangin out with my friends at 17...several of them were into music, but out of about 8 or so that were into music, only 2 or 3 ever kept it up. They are quite good today. One of them, Dave Xaviars, used to take guitar lessons from a guy named Rene Herrera, a flamingo guitarist expert. His previous influnence was Hendrix. He has a wild style of music now! Once I sold him my car and he traded it for a guitar...did'nt bother to change over the title and so the guy that got the car hit a corvette and shattered it...the bill came back to me! Lesson learned: Always do the paperwork!
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Message 78 of 161 (208000)
05-14-2005 8:54 AM
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05-14-2005 8:40 AM


Well my life isn't perfect either, but I'm not going to whine about hardships, tragedy, deaths etc.. within my life when there's ppl dying from radiation,
when you said this I felt a little upset:
quote:
we each get the limit of what we can stand.
I don't believe that because history teaches us otherwise
did the ppl of Nagasaki get their limit?
Why shouldn't the fact that you're privileged count when theres ppl without shoes and not just my mother they have entire families erased before their eyes. I think there are ppl experiencing every "kind" of bad and for you to say you've had just as worse one as everyone else in the world is ignorant.
Why should ppl get good lives?
you're particularly terrible life isn't what I'm talking about because you seem okay. There are more ppl that get oppressed and can't get up.

listen to phil collins and nas

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Message 79 of 161 (208001)
05-14-2005 8:55 AM
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05-14-2005 8:47 AM


could be anything. Whatever you want to do or what you want it to sound like or how it flows out of you.

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Message 80 of 161 (208002)
05-14-2005 8:57 AM
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05-14-2005 8:55 AM


Chris - I've got to ask this and it's an honest question - are you on some form of medication or undergoing treatment for mental health issues?

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Message 81 of 161 (208004)
05-14-2005 9:04 AM
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05-14-2005 8:55 AM


I revised my message.(edited) You can call now if you get bored...I gotta go to work at 6:30 p.m. tonite...that is 8;30 p.m. NY time.
Charles, does Chris seem insane to you? I think that he just uses EvC to rant once in awhile...we always see that side of him... but that does not mean that he is bi-polar or anything.
I know a girl who is on lots of meds for that stuff... she would be better off on NO meds I think...but her Doctors obviously disagree...

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Message 82 of 161 (208006)
05-14-2005 9:06 AM
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05-14-2005 9:04 AM


No he doesn't seem insane - having mental health issues does not equal insane.
BUT the more I read of Chris's stuff, it reminds me of kids I have taught who did have mental health issues.

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Message 83 of 161 (208007)
05-14-2005 9:07 AM
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05-14-2005 9:06 AM


You are a teacher, then? What do you teach? What grade level? Tell us some good "teacher" stories...if you want.

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Message 84 of 161 (208013)
05-14-2005 9:23 AM
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05-14-2005 8:57 AM


no

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Message 85 of 161 (208018)
05-14-2005 9:34 AM
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05-14-2005 9:23 AM


So when you say that
I'm not going to whine about hardships, tragedy, deaths etc.. within my life when there's ppl dying from radiation
you mean that we in America and the western nations of affluence IN GENERAL have nothing to complain about on any given Monday, right? My friend had cancer...he is healed now! He never complained because when he was in the cancer ward he saw others who were far worse off...he is 27 and they were all over 60...but he is a strong spiritual person. He has three kids...
When you say
Why should ppl get good lives?
do you mean that in your opinion people really are not owed good lives by God or by chance? BTW you said that you are a deist now, eh? Gods giving you a recess.

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Message 86 of 161 (208023)
05-14-2005 9:46 AM
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05-14-2005 9:34 AM


I'm still what I've always been, but the fact that I bleieve in a God is why I said deist.
quote:
Why should ppl get good lives?
I didn't say that brennakimi did.

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Message 87 of 161 (208074)
05-14-2005 1:35 PM
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05-14-2005 8:28 AM


Re: what? dont jump to conclusions
Read the title. It's the perfect answer to your ideas about "evidence".
Well almost. I'd also add that simply wanting something to be true can't make it true.

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Message 88 of 161 (208108)
05-14-2005 4:11 PM
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05-13-2005 2:50 PM


Re: what? dont jump to conclusions
quote:
Does that dispute the fact that it happens or that ppl that deserve a better life don't get it?
You have recognized that there is a problem.
That's good.
If you want to help people have better lives, then DO SOMETHING to help them have better lives.
Just wallowing in the realization that life can be harsh for many does none of those actually living in harsh conditions any good at all.
Stop talking about it here and go volunteer somewhere.

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Message 89 of 161 (208135)
05-14-2005 5:52 PM
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05-14-2005 9:06 AM


Why do you think that if someone thinks differently than you they have mental health issues?
What is mentally unhealthy?
So you ruin ppl's lives and put them on meds because they're not normal by your standards?
I hate that.
I hate that aspect of our society.

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Message 90 of 161 (208137)
05-14-2005 5:54 PM
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05-14-2005 4:11 PM


Re: what? dont jump to conclusions
lol
why don't you?
You could do it full time.
I'm telling ppl that theres hope for a place where they don't get broken to the bone.

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