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RAZD
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Message 1 of 28 (491500)
12-16-2008 7:18 PM


I think we should start a new charity program, shoes for journalists. This program would be designed to make sure that no journalist was ever without shoes to throw at self-important people and politicians (redundant I know, just for clarity eh?)
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/12/15-3
Perhaps we can start by sending shoes to the TV station
quote:
Hoping to capitalise on this sentiment, al-Zeidi's TV station, Al-Baghdadia, repeatedly aired pleas to release the reporter Monday, while showing footage of explosions and playing background music that denounced the US in Iraq.
Anybody got an address?
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Message 2 of 28 (491502)
12-16-2008 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
12-16-2008 7:18 PM


Unprofessional
If someone is admitted to an press conference as a professional journalist then it is up to them to act professionally. This reporter did not. I don't see beating him up or charging him as sensible but firing him as a journalist does make sense.
(understand that I'd love to throw shoes at Bush too but not in a professional capacity).

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RAZD
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Message 3 of 28 (491508)
12-16-2008 9:42 PM
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12-16-2008 7:47 PM


Re: Unprofessional who?
Well I think there is a limit to what people should put up with, professional or not, and I don't think anyone is too important to throw shoes at.
And we are talking journalists, which includes paparazzi ...
Enjoy.
Edited by RAZD, : ,

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Message 4 of 28 (491509)
12-16-2008 10:43 PM
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12-16-2008 9:42 PM


Re: Unprofessional who?
Well I think there is a limit to what people should put up with, professional or not, and I don't think anyone is too important to throw shoes at.
Then you condone, even support, throwing shoes at Pres. Elect Obama as well?

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Rrhain
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Message 5 of 28 (491526)
12-17-2008 3:01 AM
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12-16-2008 7:18 PM


RAZD writes:
quote:
I think we should start a new charity program, shoes for journalists. This program would be designed to make sure that no journalist was ever without shoes to throw at self-important people and politicians (redundant I know, just for clarity eh?)
Actually, the program I've heard of is to have everyone send a shoe to Bush's library.
The ridiculousness I saw was that Bush never dropped that shit-eating grin off his face. Is there nothing too serious for him to snicker at?

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Message 6 of 28 (491542)
12-17-2008 10:24 AM
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12-17-2008 3:01 AM


Hi Rrhain,
The ridiculousness I saw was that Bush never dropped that shit-eating grin off his face. Is there nothing too serious for him to snicker at?
He was probably thinking, "Man this is going to get a million hits on youtube".

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
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Message 7 of 28 (491544)
12-17-2008 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
12-16-2008 7:18 PM


I think we should start a new charity program, shoes for journalists. This program would be designed to make sure that no journalist was ever without shoes to throw at self-important people and politicians (redundant I know, just for clarity eh?)
What we need to do is teach journalist how to throw. He's 10 feet away and he misses...twice!
We need to send journalist to a bunch of county fairs and get them to throw shoes at the Dunk-booth. So, the next time a self-important politician is talking shit they'll be able to crack him/her right in their stupid forehead.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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Jazzns
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Message 8 of 28 (491553)
12-17-2008 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Coyote
12-16-2008 10:43 PM


Re: Unprofessional who?
Then you condone, even support, throwing shoes at Pres. Elect Obama as well?
When Obama lies to start a war that kills millions of people, displaces more into poverty, slavery, prostitution, and homelessness, authorizes torture, fails to protect Americans from terrorists, fails to respond to natural disasters, deregulates us into oblivion, and acts like he is the hero of the world...
...I would hand you my own shoes to throw.

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

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Message 9 of 28 (491554)
12-17-2008 12:13 PM
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12-17-2008 12:09 PM


Re: Unprofessional who?
When Obama lies to start a war that kills millions of people, displaces more into poverty, slavery, prostitution, and homelessness, authorizes torture, fails to protect Americans from terrorists, fails to respond to natural disasters, deregulates us into oblivion, and acts like he is the hero of the world...
...I would hand you my own shoes to throw.
I don't want to get into a political war on an evolution/creation website but ... nonsense. Utter left wing drivel.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 10 of 28 (491562)
12-17-2008 12:59 PM


The most remarkable part of the whole incident was Bush saying of al-Zeidi "I don't know what his beef was."
Fuck, Dubya!! Could you hazard a guess?

  
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Message 11 of 28 (491566)
12-17-2008 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Coyote
12-17-2008 12:13 PM


Re: Unprofessional who?
I don't want to get into a political war on an evolution/creation website but ... nonsense.
The Coffee House is a good place for political wars, lol.
jazzn writes:
When Obama lies to start a war that kills millions of people, displaces more into poverty, slavery, prostitution, and homelessness, authorizes torture, fails to protect Americans from terrorists, fails to respond to natural disasters, deregulates us into oblivion, and acts like he is the hero of the world...
Which part was "left wing drivel", the facts...? In fact, which part was "left wing"...?

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
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Jazzns
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Message 12 of 28 (491582)
12-17-2008 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Coyote
12-17-2008 12:13 PM


Re: Unprofessional who?
I wouldn't want to defend Bush either. Nothing I said is really all that controversial.
There are dead, poor, homeless, Iraqis directly because of the blunder that was the post war planning. One of the biggest industries in refugee areas in Syria is prostitution especially for underage girls.
The only foreign terrorist attack on US soil in decades happened on his watch. That is a fact.
He did in fact fail to respond appropriatly to Katrina which was more than demonstrated by what was done at the federal level to support the midwest flooding last year. The federal government is not only empowered to do something in those circumstances it is capable of being effective. He appointed people who were wholly unprepared and unqualified to run those organizations because he had to pay people back for supporting him. How else do you get someone who's primary expertise is arabian horses running FEMA?
He is a total hack and embarassment as a president. We as citizens have absolutly NO requirement to respect the office of the president and even less responsibility to respect the man. In fact, I would argue that it is un-American to give your unconditional support and respect for a president just by his condition of being in office. We should be harshest of critics of the president and ANY elected official whos job it is to server in OUR best interests.
My that same token, I'll take Obama to task for his egregious support of the FISA bill, his face saving mixture of blue-dog and progressive economic and social policies. His donning the mantle of progressives without ever having demonstrated any action as a senator that would warrant it.
In American culture we may not even think about throwing a shoe, it just turns out that such a thing has a special meaning to that culture as an insult. If I wanted to express my opinion to Bush I would just simply say, "Fuck you for ruining the nation I love."
Edited by Jazzns, : appall'in spall'in

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

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Message 13 of 28 (491583)
12-17-2008 5:58 PM
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12-17-2008 4:49 PM


Re: Unprofessional who?
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Edited by Agobot, : No reason given.

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 14 of 28 (491586)
12-17-2008 7:10 PM
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12-17-2008 4:49 PM


Re: Unprofessional who?
We as citizens have absolutly NO requirement to respect the office of the president and even less responsibility to respect the man. In fact, I would argue that it is un-American to give your unconditional support and respect for a president just by his condition of being in office. We should be harshest of critics of the president and ANY elected official whos job it is to server in OUR best interests.
Actually some of us military members do have to respect the office of the President no matter who is in office since he is officially our Commander in Chief. However, the President in turn is a servent of the people of the United States and answer directly to us citizens and military members. Unfortunately our duties require we give up some of our rights and freedoms for the security of the country. Don't blame military members for this as we are very limited by law in how we voice our dissent in comparison to our civilian counterparts. However, we still have our ability to provide our 'silent' dissent in voting.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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RAZD
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Message 15 of 28 (491587)
12-17-2008 7:38 PM
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12-16-2008 10:43 PM


Re: Unprofessional Equal Opportunity
Then you condone, even support, throwing shoes at Pres. Elect Obama as well?
Yes, if the circumstances merit showing displeasure with him, of such an extent that one felt compelled to chuck something, I would chose shoes.
It's about keeping politicians humble.
Enjoy.

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