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mike the wiz
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Message 1 of 46 (157031)
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


mike has done the unthinkable and has been refuting the bible(in parts) at christian forums. . I am not happy about this but I thought you might want to look at some explanations given. SO far - I've only seen mental gymnastics, and logic IMHO, has been ignored. HELP!
HERE I argue against the bible's apparent justification of atrocities, and my name is "ziw et ekima". Do not be confused by people calling me "mike".
Edit; Fixed typo.
Science and logic have got the better of me. I believe there is nothing stopping evolution, therefore - though I am creationist - I am "for" evolution, you could even call me an evolutionist I suppose.
I still have my faith intact - this is the strange thing - nothing effects my belief in Christ. I believe Truthlover or Jar are similar chaps in this regard. You can see in the link that I still believe in most of the bible. And Jar has convinced me that there are different canons anyway - so why pretend it is a perfect book - with one author - when the books are seperated by centuries?
Edited by AdminJar to fix link: ain't power great?
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jar
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Message 2 of 46 (157036)
11-07-2004 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


It's a journey.
GOD gave you the capability to think and there is nothing out there beyond your capability to understand. Walk along the path and enjoy the experience. The trip really is as much fun as the destination.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 3 of 46 (157039)
11-07-2004 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


Good!!
I still have my faith intact
The the worst of the destructiveness of the literalists has been avoided. Good!
I am quit happy to have someone decide they are not a believer. I just don't like to see it happen because of the dishonesty of those like AIG and ICR. I don't think that the ends justifies the means.

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coffee_addict
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Message 4 of 46 (157053)
11-07-2004 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


I've been saying it all along. You are a hybrid.

Hate world.
Revenge soon!

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mike the wiz
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Message 5 of 46 (157057)
11-07-2004 7:43 PM


Yep - it's true, the lunatic in the mask knows me better than I know myself.
Thanks Ned and Jar/Lam - for the comments and encouragement.
I'm glad you posted actually Lam, I've tried to observe logic a lot because of you....I know I act radical in threads but I'm all bark and no bite in reality.

  
lfen
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Message 6 of 46 (157083)
11-07-2004 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


my name is "ziw et ekima". Do not be confused by people calling me "mike".
"a mike te wiz" spelled backwards,eh. Fiendishly clever disguise, Holmes, had you not tipped me off I would't have recognized you!

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Asgara
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Message 7 of 46 (157097)
11-07-2004 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


Mikey darlin', I almost hesitate to say this but congratulations. I don't want to seem like we were trying to "change your mind" about anything, but I AM happy that you did the changing without having to abandon the faith that I know makes you happy. (You're right, jar is a great role model, but jar is correct also....just be Mike )

Asgara
"Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it"
http://asgarasworld.bravepages.com
http://perditionsgate.bravepages.com

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 8 of 46 (157119)
11-08-2004 1:03 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Asgara
11-07-2004 11:31 PM


asgara writes:
just be Mike
As long as he stops calling me baba!

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 9 of 46 (157120)
11-08-2004 1:03 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Asgara
11-07-2004 11:31 PM


Clone erased.
While it's here, nice webpage. It's good to see that some are still interested in enlightenment instead of amatuer satire.
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Message 10 of 46 (157130)
11-08-2004 2:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


Ah, if only more were like you, mike. It's people like you that keep my faith in humanity intact (;. I hope you're satisfied with where you are at, and may you have the smoothest of transitions. Hey, while you're at it, can you come teach my friends what practicting Christianity should really be about? lol...ok, ok, so maybe it doesn't work that way...but wouldn't it be nice?
Mike for president 2008! *pours billions into the campaign fund*

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NosyNed
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Message 11 of 46 (157134)
11-08-2004 2:14 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Glordag
11-08-2004 2:06 AM


Mike is evolving
Being a real wet blanket on this little love fest:
Don't you remember, Mike, individual organisms don't evolve; populations evolve.

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coffee_addict
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Message 12 of 46 (157135)
11-08-2004 2:16 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by NosyNed
11-08-2004 2:14 AM


Re: Mike is evolving
Not according to Babylon 5.

Hate world.
Revenge soon!

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zephyr
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Message 13 of 46 (157152)
11-08-2004 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


.
Keep following the rabbit hole, Mike. I'm impressed with your honesty. It's just one more reason you're so likeable.

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Message 14 of 46 (157162)
11-08-2004 5:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
11-07-2004 6:39 PM


Yes Mike, you have been a "shining" example of using logic and the acceptance of evidence to overcome preconceived notions. Its been nice to see the adaptation.
But remember, all work and no play make mike a dull boy.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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mike the wiz
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Message 15 of 46 (157268)
11-08-2004 11:39 AM


Thanks evryone - I'm pleased that I am having this much attention. .
Hey Zephyr - glad your back, thanks also to Asgara, Ifen, baba, and Glordag etc..etc... okay - now keep telling me how great I am! .....lol, no seriously - I'm grateful for those words of kindness from you guys. Bring me the multitude and I'll convert them. (Still expecting a post from Buz saying he is dissapointed tho. )
Sherlock writes:
But remember, all work and no play make mike a dull boy
Ahah! I knew Sherlock Holmes would unlock the secrets of my avatar!
Hey Ned, I know - individuals don't evolve literally. You problem is you are a literalist. Now get out of my ego-stroking thread!!
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