Abortion questions...?

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An ectopic pregancy will kill the mother if nothing is done. However, in some cases c-section plus incubation can save the foetus. In those cases, you should save it instead of just killing it with an abortion procedure.

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In ectopic pregnancies the embryo or fetus will usually burst the organ containing it.
Been there, done that! Mine was 4 weeks old when it blew out the tube. Very rarely has an abdominal pregnancy survived to viability and delivery. (As of 2008 about 109 globally.)So in the case of an ectopic pregnancy, the egg is doomed as soon as it attaches to the wrong area. If the situation is left to continue naturally the embryo or fetus will die as will the mother.We don't have the means to save and replant an egg or fetus that started out wrong. We also don't know if the egg or fetus would develop normally. Maybe they will in the future.In my case the fetus aborted itself, when the tube blew; and almost took me with it. At week 4, as you can see in the picture, there isn't much one can do with an embryo.PS: Never do this on a golf course. It really screws up your game and they don't refund green fees. Edited by purpledawn, : Added abdominal pregnancy numbers.

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You have provided one case. One case, that was extremely rare. You are advocating for women to try to carry an ectopic pregnancy to the point of viability. This is ludicrous to an extreme. Why don't you ask a doctor about this idea? It is a death sentence to many women and all of the fetuses except for a very, very rare few. As I said before, consult the medical literature. Do you think any other pro-lifers will support your assertion?

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That's not what he advocates. Read his posts.Only the abdominal pregnancy has carried to term that I know of. The other organs aren't large enough and Slevesque knows that. He's saying that if the fetus can be carried to the point of viability outside the womb without harming the mother, he feels that the attempt should be made. Only the abdominal pregnancy would allow that possibility. He's not saying that all ectopic pregnancies should be forced to continue until they burst.

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But not ok to abort if mothers life is in danger post 25 weeks? Message 355

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His point was that after 25 weeks the child should be able to survive outside the womb with help and therefore no need for abortion. Keep up. See his Message 339.

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He presented a bizarre alternative to aborting an ectopic pregnancy. It was presented as if it was a very viable alternative to aborting ectopic pregnmacies. Then he found an article that showed one extremely rare and bizarre ectopic pregnancy that did resolve the way he suggests. If you read the article the doctors did not realize it was ectopic until very far along in the pregnancy.

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And yet I understood him. You even quoted his statement from Message 305. (That's why it's nice to include a link so people can read the post for themselves.) He said, "...in some cases...". Even though it is rare, there are cases. His statements aren't advocating anything more than if it is possible, then save both the mother and the child. I don't see that he's advocating that women today be forced to carry any or all ectopic pregnancies in hopes that they will reach the 25 week point.Odds are these rare cases are because the ectopic pregnancy wasn't discovered earlier. If the English woman's problem was discovered very early, her doctors would probably have advised aborting the fetus. Further in the article we see that the doctors didn't catch the problem in earlier scans. Miracle Baby.In another article on the Miracle Baby, we learn that even the ground-breaking surgery put the mother at risk.

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Are you sure he knows this? If this is true why didn't he say abdominal ectopic pregnancies in his first mention of ectopic pregnancies. I think probably because he was unaware of it until he researched it after he tried to peddle the pro-life crap he was using.

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It doesn't matter. His point is the same when both the mother and child are in danger.His first mention of ectopic pregnancies was Message 305 which I quoted above.In Message 302, he responded to jar: The English woman was an example where both were saved.

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That is pro-lifer utopia talk. Things are not this simple and cut and dry in pregnancies, or for that matter anything in life.

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I agree that medical issues aren't cut and dried, but for the sake of discussion we tend to generalize. Generally speaking, Slevesque (as I understand it) feels that if the mother's life is in danger (for whatever reason) and there are no means available or the child cannot be sustained outside the woman's body; it is acceptable to abort the fetus.

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Because I learnt it in 6th grade. Which is too early in my opinion. In my final 6th grade year, after they taught sex.ed. (which was around march), many girls in my class were losing their virginity with high school guys. What age are you in 6th grade, like 11-12 I think?

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I'm all for sex.ed. at around 15-16 personnally.

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I guess growing up on a farm has its advantages. Around 5th and 6th grade, I was helping castrate little piggies and clamping calves.I also saw the problems with breeding cows too young. Pulling a dead calf out of a young cow before she dies, leaves an impression.I told my daughter sex was not a toy and not to have sex until she was supporting herself in her own home. She didn't and no, she wasn't a very compliant child. She just had no problem with my reasoning. It made sense to her.