Islamic jihad: the genocide in the Sudan

Hi randman, Not totally, and it depends on what you mean by Sharia. Some consider it the Qur'an alone, some include the Prophet's Sunnah. Some say the Prophet's Sunnah should be considered only in a ritualistic capacity. Some say tradition should be Sharia - but for the most part it is just the Sunnah and the Qur'an.When I look at the Qur'an I have to agree with the Qur'an Alone Muslims, since the Qur'an (and thus Allah) says that Mohammed's only duty is to deliver the message. Anything else is ancillary and is not the revealed Word of Allah. Muhammed was not special and was just a man - so why should we follow is words and deeds?So yes - the very fact that there is dispute over the Sharia and the Sunnah seems to indicate to me that whilst the Sunnah is generally considered very important, anything else that gets added to Sharia is certainly ancillary and a matter of interpretation for the individual. Edited by Modulous, : subtitle

What difference? You're not reading and if you are, you aren't comprehending.
Israel=one Tiny nation
Area= One tiny nation
Time of conquest= one relatively brief terminal period in historyIslam= all nations
Area= global
Time of conquest= unending

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

I suspect you also dismiss the revelance of the the numerous brutalities commited in the name of Christianity, and also the fact that the Christian world has had ample experience in conquering and subjugating large parts of the world (puts Islam to shame frankly in this repect). Edited by Isana Kadeb, : No reason given.

From what I've learned about Islam over the years is that the Quran is not the one thing of Islamic doctrine. It has to Muslim doctrinal theology about the same status as the Biblical OT has to Christians. The Hadith and the Sunnahs are as significant doctrinally to the Islam clerics and leaders who do the leading, inspiring and teaching as the Biblical NT are to Christianity. Much of the violent inspiration comes from these.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

it's largely the same as yours. I responded to it in Message 151Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

Hi Isana. Welcome to EvC. We're talking what the scriptures teach and advocate. Anyone outside of the narrow timeframe and locality of Biblical violence has no Biblical justification or authority from the book for violence. Not so with Islam. Those who do violence are not Biblical Christians and are doctrinally false.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

What about those Biblical Christians who incite or call for violence? Are they doctrinally false?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

well, most Muslims don't agree with your view of their religion. Sharia includes religious traditions.Moreover, the Koran is still not a document favoring non-violence and freedom of religion for everyone. The non-Muslim is a 2nd class citizen. Actually, Mohammed is considered their chief prophet.

What constitutes inciting violence is another topic and I'm sure you're as fussy about topic in other threads as you are your own.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

yea jar, this relates to the Islamic jihad in the Sudan, how?...but while we are talking, can this be blamed on the West as well?Edited by randman, : No reason given.

to which jar asked: which buz evaded answering by posting Specifically when a Biblical Christian, Pat Robertson or some other Biblical Christian suggests that people should be killed, are they doctrinally false?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Well, so far no one has been able to show what caused the violence in the Sudan. I keep hoping you are actually going to look at what is happening there, the history of the conflict, instead of just ranting about Islam. Doesn't seem to be happening. As well as what?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Islamic expansion and domination is the most plausible explanation as that is indeed the stated policy of the jihad. Convert to Islam or face extermination.Now, it is true there are complicating factors such as the discovery of oil during the conflict that played a role in the international community ignoring the conflict (some financial interests including China) didn't want to upset Khartoum.I think the war on terror has played a part in recent years as well.But the war is essentially about Islamic domination, plain and simple.

As well as what? And your support for that is?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Right. Not only that, but in order to become a Muslim one must declare that Allah is god and Muhammed is the god Allah's prophet.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW