Imprecatory song and prayer

Then you're not doing a very good job. You say that as a result of God's judgment over gay marriage, the rate of murder and child molestation will increase. When questioned further, you say that he will achieve this, not by doing anything, but by adhering to a policy of non-interference. But if that is the case, then he won't achieve it. Left alone, I will not, as a result of gay marriage, rush out and murder someone and then molest their children. I don't want to. If God takes no action, I still won't want to. In order for him to carry out this judgment, he'd have to change something. You are misremembering. I read it, I have taken note of it. Except, apparently, the commandment against Sabbath-breaking. Still no comment on the usury issue?---Am I just imagining it, or are we now having the same argument on two different threads? This will confuse the lurkers no end.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

How many gays have you killed as per Lev 20:13?

I was talking about the elaboration of the Moral Law as it applies to all of us now, the elaboration of the meaning of the ten commandments, the extension of the law against adultery being expanded for instance to show that it applies to all kinds of sexual sin including fornication and homosexual sin. The rules for punishment were specific to Israel and do not apply since Christ came.I'm sorry I do tend to forget to add the long list of caveats to anything I say to avoid being taken out of context, I trust people to give some grace that they nevertheless never give, stupid me. That is a failing of mine and it's a frustrating one because it never fails that somebody is going to come back and accuse me of something I certainly did not mean to affirm.We are not a theocracy, the Moral Law is not prosecuted as Israel was required to prosecute it, and their prosecution was largely meant to demonstrate God's will. Today what we are to take from it is a knowledge of what God regards as sin. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Not sure if you meant to, but that sounds like it excuses the american public from behaving intelligently and empathetically.I think too many americans WILLFULLY choose ignorance and hatred. The evidence of Bush Jr being re-elected* TWICE, Faux News STILL in business, the fervent love affair with guns over children's deaths, over 40% of americans believe that the Noah's Ark fairy tale is true, and the time and energy to support the hatred and oppression of minorities, amply prove it.The american government repeatedly states that we americans are exceptional. That only america can serve as the moral compass to lead the rest of the world in the new century. Most americans are thrilled to believe it. When a parent gives repeated fanatical praise to a child, how does it usually grow up? americans are that spoiled, selfish child.

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Obama tells the world: America is exceptional

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Obama tells the world: America is exceptional

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So the Moral Law is itself not a law any more, it's just a set of hints and suggestions as to how you should invent your own law?Well then, it seems you take the hint about gay marriage, but not the hints about usury or Sabbath-breaking. If someone else was to do it the other way round, how should an impartial observer decide which one of you is the True Christian? Have you heard the phrase "cafeteria Christian"? It seems that you, a conservative fundamentalist, have decided that it's OK for the big banking interests to make money in a way forbidden by the Old Testament and the New, and by the explicit statements of Jesus on this subject, and that the Fourth Commandment just doesn't apply any more, but you can still be mean to queers. And, oh look, this decision is perfectly in line with your personal prejudices and the traditions of your culture. What a coincidence.

There really should be some kind of Award set up to recognize the amazingly clever ways people at EvC vie with each other to invent accusations of people creationists and Christians out of thin air. Such an enormous amount of talent here going unsung. You'd of course be a major contender for the big prize. Somebody should set up a thread to collect the best ones. I nominate this one of yours.

Well, thanks for calling me "amazingly clever", but would you like to try your hand at a rebuttal? Yes, it is clever. I own the soft impeachment. Most things I say are clever. I shall not lay claim to the adjective "amazingly", because that would be immodest.But what do you have to say about my post other than that it's "amazingly clever"? This concession does not even get close to refuting it.

Yea i know, but you have to realise he is not the only one speaking it. What was the religious cause of the past decade, get sex sorted, no condoms for Africa, locking up gays in Africa, no marriage for gays in america .... like the whole world is full of sexually repressed schoolgirls. Sex is a perfectly natural thing keep religions and governments out of it. And fight worthy causes child soldiers, people dying of hunger, Arctic ice melting well we can take that cause down now right its too late for the Arctic ice but there are 1000 of more worthy causes that Christians could stand for but the loudest who happens to be also the most fanatical part of Christians are setting wrong agendas, and the rest is usually following.

Wow, that is some disgusting anti-christ bullshit. You should be ashamed of yourself.