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CK Member (Idle past 4128 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: You can't have this both ways - you can't claim something and then tell people that they are not knowledgeable enough to speak for them. If that the case - it sort of destroys your own point because you are unable to prove it for the same reasons.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
If we had these couples direct input, we could examine it. Do you believe you are knowledgeable enough about these folks that you can speak for them? They're friends, (or friends of the family, rather) and I have no reason to doubt their word that they are happy and fulfilled. Do you put every relationship up to this kind of scrutiny? To put it another way... what reason do you have to assume that they might be unhappy and unfulfilled? This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 09-30-2004 01:08 PM "If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars." -George Meyer, Simpsons writer
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
I think the problem here is that you seem to be working from a basic assumption that a gay relationship must have severe flaws. So if someone brings up a happy gay couple, your reaction is to say "well, let's put them under a microscope slide, and find out where the flaws are. Because I assure you, they're there."
It doesn't work that way. If you want us to assume that a relationship that is, by all appearances, happy, healthy, and functional, is in fact none of the above, then you need to give us a reason to do so. "If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars." -George Meyer, Simpsons writer
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dpardo Inactive Member |
I understand your points.
Perhaps Rei can add her first-hand experience with the subject matter.
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CK Member (Idle past 4128 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
but surely her viewpoint is only going to speak for her own experience? unless you saying that being gay or bi gives you special mind-reading skills?
This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 09-30-2004 01:50 PM
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dpardo Inactive Member |
No.
My purpose would be that we could question her to attempt to gather first-hand information.
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CK Member (Idle past 4128 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
and if she says "yep I'm really happy" - you are going to be OK with that?
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CK Member (Idle past 4128 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
any chance of an answer to number 27?
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Charles Knight writes: "any chance of an answer to number 27?" Yes. Yes.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4959 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
I always knew the English were *ankers!!
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CK Member (Idle past 4128 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
So the medical evidence that wanking is good for you is incorrect?
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CK Member (Idle past 4128 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
You can shut it as well, go and eat a fried mars bar
You seen this ? Archive-it Wayback Lots of the scots I know think it's a joke.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4959 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Fur feck sake!!
What a mess LOL. Nae doot sum numptae goat a hunner thoosind fur makin that keech up! Brian.
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Rei Member (Idle past 7013 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
1. As Dan pointed out to you, dpardo was claiming that homosexual relationships don't work out, in comparison to heterosexual relationships. I was pointing out that he was incorrect.
2. As to the "rape" issue, I stated "in a way", not "yes". It was not "rape" in its full sense, but neither was it some sort of normal consensual sex. It was him wanting to have sex and her being afraid to say no because of experiences with him, which she has not felt up to describing to me, and for which I have not felt like pressing her on, seing how she cried the last time we talked about it. "Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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Rei Member (Idle past 7013 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
quote: Happy, 5 years, and going strong.
quote: 100%.
quote: Not one bit. You know, I find it kind of funny how you feel fit to lecture us on how we're not happy/fulfilled/able to last, when we *are* happy, fulfilled, and able to last. It's like me telling you that tooth hurts like crazy right now. "Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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