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Author Topic:   What is a "Real Conservative"? - [i]The American Conservative[/i] magazine
Silent H
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Message 7 of 22 (255943)
11-01-2005 5:11 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Minnemooseus
10-31-2005 11:48 PM

Re: American Conservative stuff from another topic
I wish I had seen this thread when it was first created. Thankfully Berb and you have resuscitated it.

I was going to agree with you regarding AC vs the Neocons, but berbs post was correct that it does slide into the True Scotsman fallacy.

The reason False sounds right for neocons (and why I was ready to agree) is that they profess overtly liberal agendas. But then if their ideas are picked up and carried on self-professed conservatives, does it not then become a form of conservativism?

So I think Traditional vs New is perhaps the best definer. I know schraf had a thread on this, and I was definitely arguing that neocons were not real republicans (or conservatives) there, but perhaps very very different conservative is better. How about FlipFlop Conservative?

Suddenly I feel like getting a subscription to American Conservative... well maybe not.

"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)
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Silent H
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Message 8 of 22 (255944)
11-01-2005 5:17 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by macaroniandcheese
11-01-2005 12:33 AM

Re: Nader
eh. public safety should go the way of the dodo.

Within limits. I think safety standards for products that use energy, produce energy, or can do extensive damage if used improperly (or fall apart) makes some sense.

There is no way we can all be mech engineers and test everything before we use it personally.

Without such things collapses of public buildings and structures, as well as stuck or falling elevators would be much more common. I could do without that.

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