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Phat
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Message 86 of 134 (264528)
11-30-2005 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by IrishRockhound
11-23-2005 6:57 PM


Sexual Expression: Definition of it
I.R.H. writes:
Pornography is a touchy subject in the US. Over here, it's apparently ignored except for child pornography (and there the big question is child exploitation).
Well...all of us have seen pornography and some of us are addicted to it. Lets define it, first.
Websters writes:
por”nog”ra”phy \pr-"n-gr-f\ n : the depiction of erotic behavior intended to cause sexual excitement ” por”no”graph”ic \'pr-n-"gra-fik\ adj
I am of the firm opinion that exploitation of a minor is a crime...thus, this is an adult issue.
IrishRockHound writes:
Is it wrong? Is it right? Is it a gift from the gods? What about fetish porn, hentai, Greek nudes, lapdancing, whatever?
Legally, this is a free country and consenting adults can do whatever they want. In the context of my Beliefs, however, pornography is akin to idolatry of the human form. Personally, I have never been addicted to porn. Naked people of either sex never have turned me on. And I never understood the difference between soft core porn and hard core porn...can something be pornographic if people have clothes on? James Dobson seemed to think that the Abercrombie and Fitch catalogue was "pornographic".
How do you feel about human sexual expression?
What is sexual expression? Is that what Crashfrog is doing?

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Phat
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Message 94 of 134 (264710)
12-01-2005 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Christian7
11-30-2005 8:32 PM


Growing and Learning
Guido---dont let these guys give you any crap! None of us know each other...I certainly have profiles of others here in my mind, but I do not know them.
Guido: Angry Young Teenager writes:
humans suck and are all retarded and there is no love in the world so shall ye all burn in hell.
Here in the school of hard knocks, nobody is gonna coddle you---thats for sure! You have some unique challenges in your life as you grow up, and your intellectualism is not the main one. You are bright yet impatient, and get easily bored. Hopefully, your friends are good influences...I've known some kids who had thug friends and who got in all sorts of trouble.
God will bring some girls your way in His timing...it is natural and appropriate to get involved in the context of a group such as a youth group. It is unfortunate that your Pastor is a jerk. Don't give up looking for good mentors in life, though.
Jar, and nwr, and I are always willing to discuss issues with you concerning intellectual ideas, and you can connect a bit to the adult world at this site with a reasonable degree of rationality.
There is no substitute for one on one relationships, however. Watch yourself out there! There are weirdos lurking everywhere...but I expect that you are bright enough to discern them.
As far as sexual expression is concerned, this link provides a worldly yet rational dissertion on the issues with teenagers.
From the Christian perspective, there are a lot of mixed messages about that stuff as well. I do not think that it is natural and OK for a teenager to experiment with his/her emotions and hormonal urges.
You are quite right in wanting to wait until marriage, if possible.
I will say that forced abstinance is also a bit extreme...you know how it is when the more you try and NOT think about something, that is soon all you think about?
Your best strategy, in my opinion, is to find a well balanced and healthy group of active kids...of both sexes...to hang out with in a controlled setting such as a cool church group (as opposed to controlling ones) or maybe a physics club or a journalism class or some sort of a group with shared activities that stimulate your mind and keep you busy.
You can grow emotionally by hanging out with a mixture of age related friends and older mentors. Im sorry that your Pastor was insensitive to you---but don't let it discourage you.
Only you know if that youth group is right for you or if you need to find a better one. Pray about it, and ask God to forgive all of the people who have hurt you in your life. You are a bright kid with a bright future! Im praying for you as well, Guido! You da spiritual pimp!

Nature is an infinite sphere of which the center is everywhere and the circumference nowhere.
Pensées (1670)
We arrive at truth, not by reason only, but also by the heart.
Pensées (1670)
Heb 4:12-13-- For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
Holy Spirit--speaking through the Apostle Paul

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Phat
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Message 95 of 134 (264713)
12-01-2005 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by Silent H
12-01-2005 8:24 AM


Information, Relationship and Expression
Guido, talking to Holmes writes:
It is natural to find it appealing I suppose, but I choose not to think about that crap.
Holmes writes:
"That crap" is how babies are made.
And I will agree that teenagers need to have someone talk to them about sex, Holmes. I have seen many teenagers both male and female who are but 13-15 years old and already have a kid! They are locked up and the state ends up taking care of both 13 year old parent and child!
In a perfect world, a young persons parents should approach the issue. Many parents are afraid that if they discuss sexual stuff with their eleven year old that the kid will end up getting horny or something. This simply is not true. Kids like to hear information from someone whom they trust and not just off of some internet information page or a sterile sex ed seminar at school where they pass out condoms!
Sexual expression means more than going out screwing girls! Expression is a human need, and the stimulation of the intellect will often sublimate the raw passion that pornography only irritates.
Sports are another outlet! Creativity is a gift from God and so is procreation, in the right time and place.

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