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Modulous
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Message 3 of 101 (319426)
06-09-2006 4:21 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by ohnhai
06-09-2006 2:59 AM


Wow
If England do end up beating Brazil and Germany do you think we'll ever take the St George's crosses down? I swear there are more of them about this year than ever...and oddly thousands more than on St George's Day.
Onto the OP - I actually don't care much for football so my predictions would be useless. I do predict that the States will do OK, but not great and as always we should watch out for the Dutch, the Brazillians and the Germans.
The English will do what they normally do. Give us hope, then crush it.

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Modulous
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Message 82 of 101 (326910)
06-27-2006 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by FliesOnly
06-27-2006 4:08 PM


Re: I concede...to a point
However, it still appears to me as if not enough effort is put into attempting to score.
I agree! I get the same feeling when watching American Football...what's this crap about a running game? Why not Hail Mary it every down? Basketball too...what's all this dribbling and trying to pass around defenders about. Its possible to score from the halfway line, so take the damned shot you lanky gets! I was watching a full handed limit poker ($30/$60) game the other night too - you know those guys hardly bluff! They need to bluff more, put a bit of effort into winning!
I was watching the cycling the other day. I saw a line of 'team mates' and the front one slowed down and went to the back! They must losing miles doing this. It seems to me like the cyclists are not making enough effort to win!
Clearly these athletes, the tacticians and the managers are all missing the obvious - the games are about quantity of shots, not their quality!
Flies - you and I should start our own teams, we'd wipe the floor with these so called world class athletes...they wouldn't stand a chance and we'd make millions!
There's no other way to say it, the way you see it is flawed. The tactics you speak of are the kind of tactics you see from 12 year olds. Those 12 year olds have to develop tactics closer to the ones you see on television or they will end up getting beaten by those that do.
When a kid has the ball, he wants the glory of a great shot, but it hardly ever pays off (it usually ends up giving advantage to the opposition) - passing the balls and beating defenders, taking advantage of weaknesses...this is where consistent goals are scored. When the defense is world class the weaknesses are small and there aren't many opportunities. It makes the game terminally boring and as a consequence I don't really watch it (exceptions: some international matches). I have better things to do than watch 20 guys running backwards and forwards passing a ball between them for 2 hours.
However, what I will not concede is that soccer players are probably the kings (queens) of crying wolf. To me (a person that absolutely will not fake and injury to gain an advantage), the unsportsmanlike conduct of pretending to be seriously injured in hopes of unnecessarily causing your opponent to receive some sort of penalty is cheating...period. I hate it in any sport and soccer players (anecdotally at least), seem to be number one in being a big bunch of pantywaists.
I agree - the sickness isn't just the fault of the players. They are under a lot of pressure to take those dives from their managers and to an extent - the fans. Because defense is so tough, set pieces can be massive advantages. Millions of quid ride on it, and officials don't do enough to penalize people who are obviously cheating. There are a list of reasons I dislike the sport, and that is one of them.
/exclamation mark filled rant

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Message 91 of 101 (327360)
06-29-2006 12:04 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by FliesOnly
06-28-2006 2:46 PM


ref!
but some of the calls were such obvious bullshit, that a blind man would have seen em.
Heh - That's the spirit! This is identical to what everyone in England was saying June 24 2004 when we got knocked out of Euro 2004 by the hosts, Portugal. Its a universal constant - the referees are out to get {insert the team you support here}, and their calls are always biased against them.
Actually, some interesting studies have gone into referee bias. I remember one that suggested refs favour the home team slightly. In an international that might translate to favouring the favourites slightly, or whomever has the loudest crowd.

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