Unnatural Disaster : Iraq

The outpouring of concern and sympathy for the victims of this UNNATURAL DISASTER was immediate and overwhelming throughout most of the world, but only marginal in the United States itself.

Photographs of flag-draped military coffins were forbidden, and the Iraqi Ministry of Heath was ordered to simply stop counting all civilian deaths.

Next, we keep a tally of civlin casualties.

Do I need to post pics of all the mass graves Saddam is responsible for?

Next, we keep a tally of civlin casualties.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------No you don't. Your spokesmen have repeatedly denied that the US tracks civilian casualties.

In the first place these would be the very same graves the US administration expressed no disaproval of at the time?

Ah the conspiracy theory in action. It's a pretty odd definition of "goofball" to indicate people who were correct on the facts, correct on the consequences, and correct to oppose the war.

The problem with this point is that nearly all of the gross attrocities commited by Saddam and his regime were commited before the first Gulf War -

Tell me, Tal, how many of your brothers, sisters, parents, grandchildren, friends and other loved ones would you be willing to see killed as a result of invasion by a foreign force on the loose promise of a future good?

How much hardship would you be willing to endure? How long would you go without food, running water and the rule of law?

Nonsense, you are an aggressor state carrying out an illegal occupation of a sovereign state.

You will recall this is the same crime that Saddam committed in the invasion of Kuwait, and at the time Bush Sr. said that in the modern, post-WW2 world sovereignty had to be guaranteed.

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Our purpose is not colonize and plant roots.
----------------------------------------------------------------------Tell it to the marines. They don't have to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time, they'll believe you, but nobody else.

No your goal is to loot Iraq's oil wealth and smash the power of OPEC.

Who destroyed food provision? The occupation army. Who destroyed water infrastructure? The occupation army. who destroyed the rule of law? The occupation army.

*buzzer sound* Wrong. Try again.

First of all, we are a liberation force, not an invasion force.

Our goal is to liberate the people of Iraq, which means that they will govern themselves.

Secondly, it would depend on who is killing my loved ones. In the average Iraqis case, it is foreign insurgents, or the Bathist rememnant.

Who is giving the Iraqis food? Who is giving them running water? Who is trying to restore the rule of law? Answer to all the...MNF-I.

"We really don't know how many civilian deaths there have been, and we don't know how many of them can be attributed to coalition action, as opposed to action on the part of Iraqi armed forces as they defended themselves," Secretary of State Colin Powell said in a BBC interview Sunday.Historically, the Pentagon hasn't attempted to count civilian casualties and losses resulting from U.S. military action.Military officials have given various reasons for this, citing principally the time and resources involved and the difficulty of separating damage caused by U.S. forces from damage caused by the enemy.But this time, the Bush administration is facing greater pressure to undertake at least some kind of accounting for what military authorities call "collateral damage."Before and during the war, U.S. officials repeatedly stressed the extent to which American forces were trying to avoid civilian losses by employing precision weapons, computerised target planning and restrictive rules of engagement. More than 70 per cent of the bombs and missiles used in this war were either satellite or laser-guided, according to the Pentagon."Because this administration has put so much emphasis on the care that it has taken, it would be very difficult for them to avoid coming to some kind of assessment of how they did in this regard," said Sarah Sewall, who served in the Pentagon during the Clinton administration and now directs a study on civilian suffering in war being conducted under the auspices of Harvard University.Sewall added that it would be "unrealistic" to expect the Pentagon to come up with "a reliable figure" for civilian casualties given the "size, intensity and speed" of the U.S. campaign.But she said investigating at least some incidents would not only bolster U.S. credibility but contribute to military planning next time by understanding the actual effects of particular U.S. battlefield decisions.

contracycle writes:Both Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld have explicitly stated that the US does not count civilian casualties,,,

contracycle writes:If one is wrong then they are both wrong, but I guess you are far too "patriotic" to ever admit any of the faults of your evil state.

contracycle writes:And what we see here is the same kind of blind, patriotic, stormtrooper morality that allowed Hitlers rise to power,