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Panda
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Message 28 of 107 (625941)
07-26-2011 1:54 PM


It's evil!
I hadn't really considered this before, but how demonised must cannabis be!
All those greedy companies and governments are still too scared to touch it with a barge-pole.
Considering how much cash is rolling in from the sale of alcohol: what is stopping a full-on advocacy of cannabis?
It can't be moral considerations - business and government consistently display a lack morals.
All I can think of is some kind of cultural brainwashing that makes people think that dope is worse than alcohol.
But I am finding it difficult to identify any of this brainwashing.
Is it just a hangover (no pun intended) from those black and white "Reefer Madness" films?

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Panda
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Message 32 of 107 (625952)
07-26-2011 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by hooah212002
07-26-2011 2:04 PM


Re: It's evil!
hooah212002 writes:
The people who can legalize it think the only people who enjoy weed are "pot head stoner losers".
Why would they care about who is using the drug?
Surely, they just want the money.
Afterall, they are happy to sell Buckfast...
Buckfast 'in 5,000 crime reports'
I am puzzled by their refusal to grab the cannabis cash-cow by both horns and shake every last "pot head stoner losers" dollar out of it.

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Panda
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Message 33 of 107 (625954)
07-26-2011 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by fearandloathing
07-26-2011 2:07 PM


Re: It's evil!
fearandloathing writes:
I think so and to some extent the churches here in USA have far too much influence in politics.
Yes, I can see how the 'abstinence crowd' would be against cannabis.
Over here, in Europe, we don't have that excuse.
The UK (for example) is quite secular - and we are strangely proud of our alcohol problems - but cannabis is still viewed with some disgust.
We have had several public figures and scientists advocating it legalisation, but I expect them to be ignored.
(The last government scientific adviser that suggested legalising drugs ended up being sacked - and his colleagues walked out with him.)
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
Edited by Panda, : stuff...

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Panda
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Message 37 of 107 (625964)
07-26-2011 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by fearandloathing
07-26-2011 2:41 PM


Re: It's evil!
fearandloathing writes:
What I don't understand is why our govt wont allow it to be grown even for industrial uses?
The same goes for medicinal uses.
You can be prescribed Methadone (which is as bad as heroine) but you can't be prescribed cannabis.
fearandloathing writes:
Maybe the people who manufacture synthetics ect.. played a part in its demonetization.
I am sure there is more than one piece to the puzzle, and that sounds like one of them.

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Panda
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Message 40 of 107 (626007)
07-26-2011 5:39 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by dokukaeru
07-26-2011 2:59 PM


Re: It's evil!
TBH: That whole story sounds weird. Something else was going on, maybe.
dokukaeru writes:
it takes away resources from real issues that they could be dealing with.
I agree.

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Panda
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Message 42 of 107 (626027)
07-26-2011 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by xongsmith
07-26-2011 7:25 PM


Re: It's evil!
xongsmith writes:
Like Sherlock Holmes advises, when you systematically eliminate all the more likely explanations, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
Firstly, this famous quote is actually fallacious.
It is an 'argument from ignorance': "I cannot think of any other reason - therefore it must be true".
The rest of your post appears to be referencing something I am unfamiliar with and should not be taken at face value.
Maybe I am simply tired, but currently I am not entirely sure what the point is that you are trying to make.
Sorry.

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Panda
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Message 81 of 107 (630545)
08-26-2011 6:10 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by onifre
08-26-2011 2:32 AM


onifre writes:
Difference between MDMA and LSD is simple: You fuck on MDMA, you go to a concert on LSD.
But it is worth having sex on LSD at least once.
It is a strikingly unique experience...

Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR
Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.

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Panda
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Message 88 of 107 (631108)
08-30-2011 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by onifre
08-26-2011 12:44 PM


onifre writes:
The sight of a vagina would freak me out on LSD, esp during peak moments.
I luckily managed to avoid being up-close to anything too...erm...fleshy(?).
One thing I remember clearly is being able to see a fantastic aura/halo around her - even when I closed my eyes.

Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR
Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.

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Panda
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Message 95 of 107 (637138)
10-13-2011 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by crashfrog
10-13-2011 4:17 PM


crashfrog writes:
How do you guys with real lives and stuff to lose navigate this world of illegal drugs?
The safest way is to ask someone you trust if they know someone who deals.
It works like the six degrees of separation: someone will know someone who knows someone.

If I were you
And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
To make myself turn blue

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