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Quetzal
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Message 121 of 164 (166358)
12-08-2004 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by CK
12-08-2004 3:04 PM


Re: Military Spending
It is. However, Guk jokingly called himself that, Gene wore his like a "badge of honor", and Guczwa was a lily-white caucasion from Eastern Europe. Context is important.
Here, on the other hand, "Paki" doesn't mean anything AFAIK. Americans tend to lump all Arabs, Persians, Armenians, Turks, Afghans, etc etc under the catch-all "rag head" or "towel head". Most Americans aren't even aware there's a difference.

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Dr Jack
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Message 122 of 164 (166468)
12-09-2004 5:23 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by JESUS freak
12-08-2004 2:05 PM


Re: Military Spending
Your assessment of your ability to neutralise their nuclear threat is almost certainly overstated. China could, almost certainly, successfully strike several American cities with nuclear war-heads in the case of war.
More seriously, having air, land and sea supremacy is not enough to secure a country - China has a billion people, meanwhile your troops and ours are struggling to maintain order in a country of a few million people.
But, yes, America could easily defeat China in a conventional conflict; although if China could hold on long enough their autocratic ruling model could keep the fight going longer than your democratic one.

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Silent H
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Message 123 of 164 (166469)
12-09-2004 5:33 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by JESUS freak
12-08-2004 5:14 PM


"Gook" is a name for comi enemy soliders, and not for villigers who have no choice
From merriam-webster...
Main Entry: 1gook
Pronunciation: 'gk
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
usually disparaging : a nonwhite or non-American person; specifically : ASIAN
Besides, if you really wanted to be accurate you probably should have called them chinks, then we'd be able to know you weren't talking about nips, slopes, or charley which are all different forms of gooks.
I mean that is if you really want to go with that "jesusfreak" persona you are currently developing.
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holmes
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Message 124 of 164 (166471)
12-09-2004 5:57 AM
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12-09-2004 5:33 AM


In JesusFreaks defence, which is admittedly something I find it unlikely that I'm doing, I don't think he intended the term as disparaging; just as a colloquial or nick name - in the same way as we might refer to an Australian as an 'Aussie' or someone from Scotland as a 'Scot'. These terms are complicated, I've met blacks who refer to themselves as 'niggers' and Jews you refer to themselves as 'yids' - but I would never use ever and would, no doubt, cause offence if I did. Tangentially, I would refer to a Chinese Restaurant as a 'Chinkie' but I would never call someone who was Chinese a 'Chinkie'.

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Silent H
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Message 125 of 164 (166472)
12-09-2004 6:05 AM
Reply to: Message 124 by Dr Jack
12-09-2004 5:57 AM


Whoop, I edited mine a bit while you posted this.
I don't think he intended the term as disparaging
Actually I think he did. Gook is not used like aussie or scot... at least nowhere that I've been in the US.
I would refer to a Chinese Restaurant as a 'Chinkie'
Oh my, mention that to a waiter in Chicago and you might get cream of sum yung guy for free in your order.
I've met blacks who refer to themselves as 'niggers' and Jews you refer to themselves as 'yids'
This is true, but then for them it is self-referential and turning the term on its head. And there are whites that use it too, and don't get slammed, but then it is in how they use it... my nigger, versus hey nigger.
He was obviously trying to use a denigrating term for a bunch of people whose asses we were going to kick.

holmes
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nator
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Message 126 of 164 (166508)
12-09-2004 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by JESUS freak
12-08-2004 5:10 PM


Re: Military Spending
quote:
Even if I had used this word to defame someone, (I mainly used it because it was shorter than comunist [and a lot easier to spell])you did just about the same thing by classifying me as a fundamentalist Christian.
If I ofended anyone, I am sorry
If you think there is any doubt about the offensiveness of the term, why don't you walk up to a random American of Asian descent and call him or her a "gook" and see what happens.
Do you think that he or she will say, "Hey, I'm not a Communist!"?

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RAZD
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Message 127 of 164 (166560)
12-09-2004 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by JESUS freak
12-06-2004 9:37 AM


Re: Might as well post it here.
heh.
gotta blame clinton even though the budget was approved by a republican congress and probably has more republican pork in it than the effect of clinton (and Al Gore who did a lot of the ground work) ...
what will you blame in another 4 years as the economy and the dollar still tanks? (note the dollar down more than the economy has trickled up so you have a net down still, just hidden by the slumping dollar).

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JESUS freak
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Message 128 of 164 (166564)
12-09-2004 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Dr Jack
12-09-2004 5:23 AM


Re: Military Spending
First, if a missle got past the ABL-1, thanks to bush we have a missle sheild as a last defence, and we can always post a couple aegis crusiers (see tom clancy's book, The Bear and the Dragon) around the target citys as well as patriot PAC-3. Because the chinese missles are just a copy of our old titian 2 city buster missles that we got rid of in the 80s,we know that the silos have to be oriented in the direction of the target, which means we can get a pretty good idea of where it is targeted. Also, like our old titian 2's, the missles are liquid fueled meaning that If they had no warning about our attack, the missles would not be fueled.
Second, it is not us that would attack China, though they have gone against multiple treatys. We could probaly beat them atacking single hadedly, but it would be a bloody war.
If there is to be a war, china would attack us, and that is not going to happen. If they do, we whoop their buts, so they lose either way.

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JESUS freak
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Message 129 of 164 (166566)
12-09-2004 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by nator
12-09-2004 10:23 AM


Re: Military Spending
please see previous, first, american chinese citizans are americans, and secondly, gook is used refer to military and leaders of china, again once more, not it's people

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CK
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Message 130 of 164 (166569)
12-09-2004 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by JESUS freak
12-09-2004 1:59 PM


Re: Military Spending
quote:
First, if a missle got past the ABL-1, thanks to bush we have a missle sheild as a last defence, and we can always post a couple aegis crusiers (see tom clancy's book, The Bear and the Dragon) around the target citys as well as patriot PAC-3.
Missle shield ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - Please, do a little research.
Tom Clancy? you are joking aren't you?

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berberry
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Message 131 of 164 (166570)
12-09-2004 2:29 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by JESUS freak
12-09-2004 2:04 PM


Double Standards
JF, you still haven't responded to this post from me. You and other conservatives want to make so much of the fact that Iraq was in violation of international law, yet you apparently don't feel that the US should have to obey international law. Why the double-standard?
The US invaded Iraq ostensibly because they were in violation of international law as dictated by the UN. Yet the US keeps violating international law in its mistreatment and torture of prisoners. Why is it so important that only other countries obey international law even as the US ignores it?

Dog is my copilot.

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coffee_addict
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Message 132 of 164 (166583)
12-09-2004 3:20 PM


Ever wonder what would happen if the map is indeed redrawn and there's the United States of Canada and Jesusland?
Here is what I think. Within 20 years, there will be a movement to burn all scientists at the stake in Jesusland. Then, Christianity is officially declared as the official religion of the nation. The bible is taught as a science rather than literature. In 30 years, some nut becomes the head of the theocratic government and begins a holy war with non christian countries.

  
JESUS freak
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Message 133 of 164 (166611)
12-09-2004 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by CK
12-09-2004 2:27 PM


Re: Military Spending
no, it is the story line of the bear and the dragon, and (I have cheched) pretty tech acurate

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CK
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Message 134 of 164 (166612)
12-09-2004 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by JESUS freak
12-09-2004 4:55 PM


Re: Military Spending
I know what it is, I've read most of his books, they are reasonable fiction based on some element of fact (althought he can't write people for shit) - is the hint not in the word "storyline"?
Who have you checked with? where?
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JESUS freak
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Message 135 of 164 (166614)
12-09-2004 4:58 PM
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12-09-2004 2:29 PM


Re: Double Standards
thats because you can't acces your linked website WITHOUT A MEMBERSHIP Check these things out before you post links to them.

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