LION vs TIGER

To: Panda
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lol...Not really, I rather have stated the fact's instead of debating with people like this...
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Me: Lion's win You: Tiger win's
Me: Lion's win You: Tiger win's
Me: Lion's win You: Tiger win's
Me: Lion's win You: Tiger win'sAgain and again and again, so I posted what I know, these are dead on in what every one should know if there going to float around the topic of lion vs tiger.

To my knowledge I never heard of an account of a tiger killing a lion with a battle mane, a battle mane title was given to Barbary lion's for there mane's that covered most of there body's from there head all the way down to there belly's. Out of the 30-40 account's I know of tiger's killing lion's are 80% of male tiger's killing female lion's and the other 20% were not contender lion's as in not 6-12 year's old or had battle mane's, here's what would be considered a battle mane...
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Impressive lions
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Again I dont think a tiger could ever kill a lion with a battle mane, even lion's who both have battle mane's, only kill each other threw hour's and hour's of brutally inflicting numerous wound's to other part's of un-protected body. Which tiger's dont have that durabiltie only a half an hour an the tiger would lose all his stamina, while the lion's mane would be able to bide him time.
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The mane also can absorb 70% of the tiger's blow's, acting as a helmet or armor, if a tiger was to get a bite in on the mane it can also suphocate the tiger's breating pattern's, forcing him to let go to breath. It can also confuse the tiger in mis-judging the distance it take's to get to the flesh part's in high pace movement's. Also the main thing it also increase's is intimidation, by making the lion appear bigger.

1. Tiger. Greater range of climate from sub-arctic to equatorial.
2. Lion. I like social animals more. The whole pride aspect among felines is more interesting to me.
3. One on one a tiger, I just doubt that a one on one fight would occur naturally (I doubt a tiger would challenge a pride), and their ranges only overlap in a few places (central Asia, and eastern India).
4. No answer. Not sure.
5. Both will survive, though I am not sure if tigers will survive in the wild.
6. Sorry I just considered the extant and recently extinct
7. As a North American I prefer the Puma concolor as my overall favorite (from Alaska to Tiera del Fuego). I think its better because it adapts better, can live in anywhere from Tundra to rain forest to desert to moutains, to plains, to suburbs, and is not a regular predator on humans so its chances of surviving is greater.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say, looks like the white man is winning. Everything.- Oni

I wouldent say that... what about Mike tyson or Muhamid Ali, it was just a small explaination that they are in the same world class, only slightly different like a nationality thing.
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Tiger's are no joke either, but as you can see the data support's male lion's more in a fight 1 on 1.
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An Btw, I'm not white... I'm Hawaiian. XD

To: Artemis
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There are account's of tiger's killing lion's but only in captivety, an with off set levaerge's like 80% of male tiger's killing female lion's like here...
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1.Male tiger kill’s Lioness in bangalore, 1954
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2.Male Tiger kill’s lioness in Mysore, 1946
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3.Male tiger kills lioness in Milan 1951
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4.Male tiger kills lioness in culcutta mengerine.
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5.Male tiger kill’s female lion in marco peter’s reserve.
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6.John varty’s biggest Male tiger named Seatao, kills savana the lioness in tiger canyon.
WANDALUST online | Every year is Year of the Tiger at South Africa’s Tiger Canyons | Bites from a writer and life coach's world
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7.Burr robin’s circuss male tiger kill’s fermale lion.
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8.Male tiger kills lioness 1869 Getty’s berg.
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9.Fort lauderdale male tiger kills female lion.
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10.Bronx zoo a big bengal tiger named rajah killed heruta a 3 year old female lion.
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11.Perth W.A male tiger kills female lioness
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You see, they usally parry away from full grown male's, but there are actually many account's in the wild in india, where they co-exist, bengal tiger's an asiatic lion's, here's a few...
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1.1955 oct, 6 Naturual history society, Page 465-468, 3 separate
accounts lion won all 3.(Documentary)
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2. 3 wild lion's vs 3 wild tiger's in aniaml documanrtry of india...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBdpiIxMnMM
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3.A Indian prince had a fight with a wild lion and wild tiger caught an set up having the lion win the fight, this source is from tiger territory a site that is didcated to the tiger...
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4.TIGER; THE STORY OF THE INDIAN TIGER 1977 By Kailash Sankhala. Saw four accasion’s lion’s defeated tigers in the wild, stated in this book of an indian zoologist, here...
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5.jam sahib has wittnessed 3 fights having all lion defeat tiger’s in his book
also in his summarry when he exploited keshari singh he point’s them out again here
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6.31’st of March, 1851, In the Landshuter Zeitung (Landshut Newspaper)A drama at the Ganges.I’ll tell of one of these terrible fights, one you wouldn’t see again in a hundred years, a scene of blood and death that forever will haunt my mind. [] The lion and his rival, the tiger, need air and space in great quantity. Here, and only here, are they really able to live and to rule. [] (A long description of lions and tigers and how fierce both of them are, the actual event follows now) A Malayan slave ran towards us and shouted: Lion! Lion! Down there, at the river! It’s a big, fierce lion!One more reason to take shelter in the house, continued the colonel. Come, my friends, take the weapons! The lion is a troublesome guest.We closed the house’s doors; the slaves got weapons and guarded the basement. We, to welcome this guest admirably, climbed up to the gallery from which we could overlook the Ganges. An unusually big lion walked haughtily down there, not looking around as he does when he has to fight an opponent, but instead ambling slowly and thoughtfully like a philosopher, he walked there. He stopped from time to time to rest a minute, and then continued majestically his way. Under a magnificent palm, he stopped, turned around two times, and finally lay down in the shadow. This was the rest of a magnificent ruler that had nothing to fear from any adversary. He rested easily, as do those who have made no enemies.Scarcely ten minutes had the lion lain there, when suddenly, he jumped up as though struck by lightning, roaring very deeply and scratching the ground with both hind legs, as though challenging an adversary. He lowered his head and, in a single bound, jumped at the palm’s stem to look about, to the right and left. Then he jumped down to ground to wait again, and his gaze lingered at one particular spot on the horizon.An enemy seems to approach, the colonel said, a terrible enemy, if we look at the lion’s reaction. I predict that it will be a fierce fight, and many rich people would pay a great sum to see it if they were here right now.And why, I asked, don’t they stage some fights from time to time, if they would pay so much?Because what we have here is very rare. The lion won’t fight against a human but against a fierce animal, one as strong as he himself, such as a rhinoceros, an elephant, or a tiger.A tiger! It’s really a tiger! one of us shouted pointing a finger at the dangerous beast which jumped in huge leaps towards the lion. It was breathtaking, our eyes wandered from the lion to the tiger and from the tiger to the lion. The lion still was lurking. It was a terrible spectacle and we wagered who will win. Now they stood eyeball to eyeball with each other. They’d seen each other and wouldn’t leave unless one of them was lying dead at the ground. The tiger was unbelievably huge and beautiful with his long black stripes distributed all over his yellowish body. His fearful eyes seemed to burn, his head was lowered. We stood, at the most, 200 feet away. The sun shone brightly, so we could see their every move. I don’t think I have to mention that our hearts were in our mouths. The tiger closed in on the lion, but the lion remained calm. In the latter, we could see the force of the calmness in his powerful position; in the tiger, one could believe to see the violent tension of someone who has the impudence to disrespect a close danger, one who had the will to assault it. We could see a certain twitch in his legs, but he wasn’t about to flee. Did the crouching tiger want to kill the lion? I believe it did, and I admire the royal tiger’s courage, he would rather lie down in a burning furnace than be accused of cowardice!The lion had not moved at all, but we could see what was happening inside him by looking at his erected mane. From time to time, his countenance suggested a submissive gesture. But he, the king of animals, didn’t want to show any fear, but rather boldness, to his opponent. A duel was now inevitable. For the tiger it may be a glorious day, but for the lion it was certainly a festive day.With one leap, they could grab, bite, tear each other; with one leap they’d jump over the space of 20 feet that separated them from each other. Then, they leaped! The crash equaled the crash of two ships in a tempest! We could hear the bones breaking under the weight of their terrible paws, we could see chunks of flesh falling to the ground. They made no sound, but their gruff moaning indicated their rage and pain. Neither showed superiority and we wondered who would win. If the lion were to think that he had overpowered the tiger, the latter could earn the victory with a single move, shattering the surprised lion.The fight now lasted 10 minutes, and suddenly, as if they came to an agreement, both loosened their grip to gain their breath again. It was the motionlessness of the rage, but it was the calmness of the king. A few moments later, an unexpected incident which resurrected the fight took place: The tiger, which saw not only his defeat but also his death, used the moment. While his opponent was licking his wounded hind leg, he leaped 10 feet up the palm’s stem and stayed there. The lion looked around and couldn’t see his foe anymore; he roared, looked upwards, and he jumped at the tiger. But in this position it was impossible to continue the fight. They knew that only one of them would survive. The tiger jumped down and the lion followed him, but his leg caused him to shiver. A long fight wasn’t possible any more. Their claws were blunted, their jaws were tired, and they had lost much blood.The fighters’ jaws were wedged in each other as they bit at each others’ heads; we could feel the bones crushing. Suddenly the tiger retreated, wavered and fell down. The lion seized him with his terrible paws and it seemed like he wanted to punish the defeated opponent for his resistance.He didn’t loosen his grip, the merciless king of the forest, the feared lord of the wilderness; he tore the tiger apart, he crushed its skull. Suddenly a crocodile appeared out of the river. It seized the lion at his injured hind leg and dragged him into the water. The only remains of this fight were the dead tiger under the palm and some read streams of blood on the water surface.Translated into English by Leofwin.
Velar Male Lion vs. Royal Bengal Tiger.(valauble/rare account)! - Animal vs Animal-
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You see lion's have dominated tiger's in the wild even 1 on 1, that's as good as more than 10 account as you'd ever get of them fighting in the wild, there's also a few other's documented by Bob greene and an account called the ballou account.

I think its time someone writes to the mythbusters and let them deal with itIts an easy thing to test just put a lion and a tiger in a cage and watch them fight to the death lol

What about Mike Tyson versus Woody Allen? I bet Woody's movie would be better.

ummm....tldr (j/k)slow down man.not that i want a huge post with 100 links but, I think the jury is still out on that. this was the one I watched (the other sites are blocked here). and that video was straight up garbage.1st. the tigers range doesn't extend into the Gir.
2nd it was totally set up
3rd none of them died.look I get you are passionate about lions for some reason, but make a point instead of just copy and pasting a bunch of links and a 2nd hand story.I am not saying you are wrong, but you are definitely not convincing at all.I mean answer the questions in the OP, only #3 is about who would win in a fight, and after pages of links there doesn't seem to be much evidence either way.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

How about a tougher fight: Mike Tyson versus Justin Bieber? Whose singing would be better?Moose

To: Artemis Entreri
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Dude first of all, grabage? I seen the original video, you havent, plain an simple, there isint the original video on youtube, it's 4 an half hour's long...it's not even a movie it's a documentry... You claiming it was staged? Huh! No it wasnt, they had a few zoologist studying animal's of india like bird's, fish, cattle, lion's, rodent's, tiger's and more...with the company of a 100 treking indian's on elephant's, they set up camp an lion's an tiger's came in close for curiosity an came to close for comfort lunging at the native's, so they shewed them away while a tiger landed in a steep cavern, it stayed there until a few hour's a lion came threw an thew shewed it into the pit as well, where the first fight took place.
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An this happned 3 time's, dont give me this crap like you know anything of what your talking about, gir forest had thousand's of tiger's at a point an time, so what the hell are you talking about...Hmm? They were tiger's there in the late 1800's they were mostly eradicated from over poaching along with lion's that habbited all over india from even A.D time's.
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If you watched the original, you'd know that 1 tiger was killed an it was the male. #2 lion straight up mauled the male tiger, so please spare me the B.S you aint conning a guy that seen the original, the real video has the english narrirator talking, an they explain the whole fight's, I didnt say all 3 died did I tell me where I said all 3 died?
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Huh? I presented no evidence? XD XD Okay take your med's dude, I didnt post all my data yet, but you aint even going to match 1/10th of account's to expert's to scientist an other factor's I have brought so dont kid yourself, if it wasnent for a good truthful person who showed the Gir fight an pointed out the 3 tiger's... you chump's would have still have been clinging to the other video made by a Bia's lying bitch tiger fanatic, who posted a video an saying there was 6 lion's used on 1 tiger, even saying they were all african lion's XD when Felis leo presica a.ka the asiatic Indian lion has 70% of more chance's to grow belly mane's, it's just more common for african lion's to have bigger an fuller head mane's not belly mane's, which is rare for african's and stated the tiger killed 5 lion's XD XD XD PATHETIC...
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Oh you want more of a scientific scale Huh? Okay I can cram some more up a Bia's punk's ass...
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Lion have bigger heart and lung size’s than tiger’s that give the lion more stamina
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Source: Intelligence, power, and personality, by George Washington Crile
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-Source: A RECORD OF THE BODY WEIGHT AND CERTAIN
ORGAN AND GLAND WEIGHTS OF 3690 ANIMALS
GEORGE CRILE, M. D. (pdf document)
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Source: Brief description of the cardiac anatomy in a tiger
(Panthera tigris, Linnaeus, 1758): a case report
W. Perez, M. Lima (pdf document)
http://i1119.photobucket.com/...ofwin/liontigerlungsize4.jpgSource: Mammals of the soviet union, Vladistav Mazak
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Source: Philip L. Altman, Dorothy Dittmer Katz, Rudolph M. Grebe, 1958, "Handbook of respiration", Page 22-23
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Source mentioned here:
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There's also some data on the RBC count:
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Source: Nemi Chand Jain, 1993, "Essentials of veterinary Hematology", Page 59-60
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Source: http://www.molekularesystematik.uni-oldenbu.../...tation.pdf
-Here I don't know the source any more but the lions came from the "Queen Elizabeth National Park" and seem to be wild. It can be found several times if you just search for it.)
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Source: http://etd.uovs.ac.za/...0-120804/unrestricted/ErasmusHL.pdfNow a study for the tiger, one that seems to indicate a rather high value on the first view...:
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-But only on the first view. It's from here: http://www.zoosprint.org/ZooPrintJournal/2006/July/2321.pdf . Look at this: "The average PCV value was 52.12, which is much above the normal values, and this is further attributed to the feeding pattern and dehydration, in similar lines with Hb concentration." And indeed that's true. Pcv is the hematocrit, which is the percentage of red blood cells in the blood. Usual values are 37-39%, but more than 52% - that's completely abnormal. Reasons were described. Actually that's comparable with a 250 kg tiger with 60 kg fat. Subtract about 37% of the 52.12% and you got 38% and an RBC of 6.4 which seems to be a normal value for tigers, according to the other studies.
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Source: Haematological and biochemical studies in tigers ( Panthera tigris tigris )all populations together. If this is an antiquated average, just tell me and I'll change it). The result I got with this equation is that the lion's heart would weigh 1184.939g on average.For lung size I calculated the following formula: Y=174.4153+454.0276*ln X. X is again 183.6kg. So the average weight of an average lion's lungs would be 2541.152g.I also did the same for tigers, though I have to admit that the data is very limited and I had to mix siberian tiger and bengal tiger. So, the results are uncertain... However, here's the formulas I calculated - on tiger heart size: Y=10837.6246-1897.9759*ln X. X is 200 kg in this case, as this is nearly exactly the average weight of all bengal tiger populations together. The result was that the average tiger would have a heart weighing 781.5509g.For lung size I calculated the following formula: Y=4296.833-476.548*ln X. The result was that on average a tiger would have lungs weighing 1771.930g.I used the following data for lions (Body weight/lung weight/ heart weight): (161.52kg/1614g/2600g), (117.37kg/713g/-), (94.86kg/743.2g/1580g), (126.08kg/1078g/3838g), (195.4kg/1175g/2000g), (186.36kg/860g/2600g), (128.2kg/-/2090g), (109.319kg/859g/2188g) and for tigers: (209kg/1888g/698g), (-/-/940g), (170kg/2070g/1090g) and (184kg/1454g/-).When comparing heart and lung weights of lions and tigers (I took the averages I got from my formulas) I got the following: The lion has a 51.61% bigger heart and 43.41% bigger lungs.I would conclude that the lion has superior stamina to the tiger by far margin's as the scientific chart's, graph's and studye's are shown.

well if you can't link the original, then why bring it up, and why link the crappy one. It seems very disingenuous to have good data and share the bad data while trying to make any sort of point at all.you never addressed the issue of range. Tiger's don't live in the Gir, let alone 3 of them. the only place where a tiger's range overlaps so much that 3 are in the same area is called a zoo, or a private menagerie, or a circus.TIGERS do not live in the Gir Forest.here are the differences between the African lion (as seen in the totally BS video) and the Asiatic lion there are many differences,
http://animal.discovery.com/...rican/asiatic-vs-african.htmlits fairly obvious even in a grainy black and white video that the lions were not Asiatic, plus the only tiger that has a geographic range even close to the Gir is the Bengal Tiger, and they are larger than the Asiatic lions (opposed the size comparison in that video). yeah about that.

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Lion have bigger heart and lung size’s than tiger’s that give the lion more stamina
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pictures of text from a published document isn't evidence. heck most of those pictures show how big captive lions get, yet you are trying to argue how the lion in that funny vid were wild!?! srsly?if you have a real source then link the published document. a picture of text from a no name book is essentially nothing.you realize that this is still question #3 about the two fighting each other.care to answer anything else about this, or is this you one trick pony? somebody disagrees with me so i will call them names.weak sauce indeed

The lions in Liberec zoo, here in the Czech Republic, killed one of the tigers after the doors between their enclosures weren't properly secured. In the tiger's defence, it was two-on-one. The lions were apparently outraged at years of getting second billing to the tigers simply because the tigers have white fur. Even the local hockey team is named after them: The king of the jungle couldn't take that provocation for long. Personally I think they took it too far. Lions are all over the national ice hockey shirt, and the football shirt, for that matter. Couldn't they let the tigers have their day? Maybe they're pissed off because the tiger logo looks all cool and snarling, while the lion logo is prancing about on its hindlegs sticking it's tongue out like it's just sat on a red hot poker, or something.

You disagreed with me? Huh! B.S You pointed the truth was garbage, if that's not an insult than I dont know what is, I cant link the original because I dont own it, I seen it on my friend's computer, it's a documentry by a zoologist by the name Dr. Louis Talbot, which that exact original was hyper edited an spliced into 8 different movie's even showing a movie claiming the lion's lost in mark of the gorilla, an a few other's.
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Huh! Your so pathically ignorant, by capatalizing TIGER'S were never in gir... XD XD Dude they were gir gujurat for hundred's of year's, they usally stay out of the dense's forest but a peice of gugrat in Amreli is connected to Bhavagar's jungles an Jamnagar who is just a little far away from gurjuart , where gir forset sanqtuary of today is in, dont give me this B.S that they couldent even travel a few mile's to enter Gir when Rajkot has a history of tiger's from temple's to folklore to tiger's still there today, along with right around the corner there's Bharuc where in those time's of the late 1800's when they shot the gir film there were flooded with tiger's habititing the river bank's an jungle's beside's the sunderband's and lucknow far east having the most casualtiy's of tiger man killer's Bharuc which is near gir forest had probably one of the most famed indian tiger fighting story's an tiger's cover 100's of mile's in teritorial dispute's weekly so what the hell are you talking about?
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Pfft, what the hell kinda crap is this they were african lion's Huh! The bia'sness is shining like a rainbow, it is known male lions of India averagely have very small manes compared to african lion's, but the fact is they do have manes and some are on par with there African cousins.
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-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMYxwiMJYF8

-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGRiNJ60Zj8&feature=related

-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6uf7hq699k&feature=related

XD These Indian lions Ive shown you look on par with the Gir video fight. Dident you know that the biggest wild asiatic lion shot weighed hevier than the biggest wild african lion? No you didnt, the same way the biggest bengal tiger out weighed the biggest Siberian tiger, it's just on an average siberian tiger's get bigger than bengal's, the same way african lion's are averagely bigger than asiatic lion's, which again african lion's rarely ever grow belly mane's unless they are in a forest reigon of africa due to the dense humidity, while asiatic lion's have 70% more chance's of growing belly mane's due to there habitat's were they are more in dense foreset territory...
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African lion's no belly mane, an barly look's like the gir video fight lions...
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Huh! That's how pathetic you tiger fanatic's are. I like tiger's as well but there's a difference from someone who know's alot of there favored animal compared to a fanatic, the fan boy alway's tend's to lie, where in reality lion fan's over exaggerate sometime's I know I seen ton's, but they dont need to lie on somthing majority of the world has dubbed the lion with for thousand's of year's, what is it? the King of the beast, dont give me this crap that he only had his title because of his mane, which african's have them with emblem's an staue's with a crown on his head, Huh!? If His mane represented a crown, then why would they put another crown on his head wouldent that inply he has 2 crown's?Only certain culture's had alibied his mane as the crown, Huh! lion's have the title, for beating the odd's for century's of every animal they went up against, not every time but majoritly of the time they conquer what ever they have been matched with, along with the most courage, feriocity, gameness, actually having somthing that resemble's a kingdom what is it? A pride, an how the male lion rule's over it, what do male tiger's do? They abondin the cub's to the female, no king on earth would diliberetly abondin there kingdom for no reason at all.
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So get off the fanboyism, if you really want to see the gir video then go buy it on ebay or something an see it your self, instead of clinging to liar's like Ptigris who edited the gir fight, along with claiming the big cage movie was a female, XD really, a female named Bobby the tiger who was way bigger than ceasar the lion XD XD there were 2 tiger's that got killed by that lion an which Clyde beatty stated even bobby died for the selfish director, who the director of the movie the big cage wanted to get a peice for the film of a tiger getting the upper hand, it's called properganda, just like prisin of the harem movie the tiger was the hero an the lion the villan, yet the tiger looked like he got the worst end of it, the same way the used gir's documentry for the movie mark of the gorilla, the actor's said the lion's lost an hyper edited the part the tiger collapsed, because tiger's are famously known as the biggest cat in the world so they want to over exaggerate his fighting capability's.
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When in fact they average no bigger than lion's, which I showed my data from real census of over 23 year's having even siberian tiger's ownly average less than 500 pound's not like wiki an other bullshit site's, that have only estimation's an claim they average 550-826 pound's without even showing the testimonial's, reference's where they were weighed, how many were weighed, who weighed them anything, but no not one dam alibi Huh! Along with your stupid claim that the lion's were larger, XD they had mane's of course they look larger, the male tiger looked bigger than lion#2 even with the mass of the mane so what the hell are you talking about? Beside's the fact they were random event's, in the wild equal weight's are astrinomical.
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An who said I even showed all my data, like it stoped with #3...???... I'm just getting started, so be paiteint, I love destroying lion hater's so I'll be back when you conjure up more B.S.
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Huh! It's not I have to prove they were wild...you have to prove they were captive, not just saying they were captive without even a bucket of piss credability of your own selfish bia's opinion, which you can dig up all you want I'll be right here if you find it with credability. XD
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Weak sauce? More like Hot sauce, cuz your cookin right now an it look's like you need some water. XD

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