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Author Topic:   Peter Popoff is back!
anastasia
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Message 11 of 39 (388985)
03-09-2007 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by crashfrog
03-09-2007 2:36 PM


Re: I just wrote to him
You are entitled to your beliefs, but there are major differences in what Popoff is doing and what priests do, for example.
No one has the right to make fraudulant claims such as 'meeting loved ones' or 'instant healing'. We simply have no idea who or what we will recognize in heaven. But there is a big difference in a belief, and a purposeful fraud. Popoff knows he is full of crap. He knows he has someone piping information to him, and that is wrong, and lying is not 'christian'. I have known priests who have left the ministry because they felt like they were somehow part and peddlar to a scam. That's the honest thing to do, and it has been proven beyond a doubt that Popoff is not honest. Therefore, Christians can definitely regard him as outside of any Christ-like behaviour.
People are gullible, and that is sad. It is sad when they fall for a purposeful scam. Maybe God takes pity on some and they are truly healed. Maybe that perpetuates the fraud. But if we are not dealing with fruads, only beliefs, we are all gullible, you included. If it turns out there is a God, you have certainly been fooled badly. We can only wait and see, but in the meantime, there is really no high-ground.
Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

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anastasia
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Message 15 of 39 (389003)
03-09-2007 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by AnswersInGenitals
03-09-2007 5:21 PM


Re: Popoff rocks!
'Hearing the voice of God' is generally not considered a testable product. However, we know this guy is lying about that. Whether or not he is legally allowed to lie, lying's still not right.
And I agree that everyone is selling a product, and we're all buying into one of them or the other. They are selling their acts, but they can't get away with selling their lies. If anyone else lies about their product, they get the BBB called on them, Popoff slides under the cover of religion to make his scam look 'untestable'. It's pretty evil if you think about it.

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anastasia
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Message 18 of 39 (389209)
03-11-2007 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by inkorrekt
03-11-2007 7:26 PM


Re: I just wrote to him
inkorrekt writes:
Is this luck? Rare coincidence ? Or this had nothing ot do with Popof?
I assure you it has nothing to do with Popoff. It may be luck, coincidence, or God's pity on her faith. But no matter what the result, it doesn't detract from the fact that Popoff is a fraud and he knows it.

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anastasia
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Message 26 of 39 (389496)
03-13-2007 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by tsig
03-13-2007 3:08 PM


Re: How?
ts writes:
How do you know he's lying?
If you watch the clip in message one you will see that the 'voice of God' was actually the voice of Mrs Popoff.

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anastasia
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Message 27 of 39 (389497)
03-13-2007 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by tsig
03-13-2007 3:23 PM


Re: assurance
ts writes:
From were do you get this assurance?
Well. let's see. I am christian, and I feel quite assured that anyone who would be silly enough to respond to my false claims of miracle money-producing water would not get any result even by luck that I could take the credit for.

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anastasia
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From: Bucks County, PA
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Message 31 of 39 (389582)
03-14-2007 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by tsig
03-13-2007 11:11 PM


Re: How?
ts writes:
How do you know that isn't the way god sounds?
Yes, I think you are yanking our chains a bit or something with these questions. Maybe you are a fan of Popoff?
All I know is that if the voice of God were detectable byscanner and we could all use an earpiece to pick it up, well, this would be a very different world.

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anastasia
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Posts: 1857
From: Bucks County, PA
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Message 39 of 39 (389853)
03-15-2007 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by tsig
03-15-2007 4:04 PM


Re: Re:chains
ts writes:
The questions were an attempt for me ,as an athiest, to find out what criteria you used to determine that your system was true and Popoff's was false.
If we could detect god on a scanner then it would be a natural event.
I have heard this argument many, many times before. It might be a good question somewhere else, but there is truly no profundity here. The voice of 'God' was picked up by scanner, it was a natural event, and I don't have any system to compare.
Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

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