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Brad McFall
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Message 23 of 75 (400146)
05-10-2007 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
07-07-2005 11:59 PM

memories of organisms
I guess my childhood is being remembered by others than me.
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I went to Princeton to write it up. I used the High School Newspaper hardware to format the pages.
My memory was that my distinct view on organisms came from trying not to open the following book at my Grandparents

My Grandmother met my Granddad in his biology class. From these papers below from the 30s it appears that my grandmother chose to write on the muskrat. Her name was “Ward”.

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Brad McFall
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Message 26 of 75 (400167)
05-10-2007 9:25 PM
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05-10-2007 7:47 PM

Re: memories of organisms
Yeah, something like that. Whatever it was it was big.

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Brad McFall
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Message 29 of 75 (400259)
05-11-2007 7:19 PM
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05-11-2007 4:57 AM

Re: memory of Grandma where a "track" comes in

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Gladys Ward
A daughter of an apothecarist in Downtown Buffalo
Hailed from a sibling lineage of Atemas
Boston 1775: Artemas Ward
commanded the Patriot militia besieging British-held Boston from April 1775 until the appointment of George Washington in July. Subsequently he served in the Provincial and Continental Congresses, the second and third U.S. Congresses, and as chief justice of the Court of Common Pleas of Worcester County
apparently thought the Ground below her husband’s feet
was but my the shirts off my parents’
backs or in the “room of long preparation” (see newspaper article)
For her the track was clearly below her but I was talking about it already
at 10months as if I could have said I had such a memory or I wasnt trying prounce beyond wishful thinking.
At least some figure of the plants in the the pattern were grown by grandma as far back as I can remember at least this is what this means to me
not this book in my grandparents house as well (notice the scripting of the "A" in "australian" as compared in this post with the "W" in "Ward".
Grehan and Schwartz wrote,"Evolution of the third orangutan: phylogeny and biogeography of hominid origins
" ( available on
my product page as "/Documents /GrehanMan.doc")
They say( which I agree with)
Biogeography is often dominated by Darwin’s (1859) assumption that vicariant (spatially disjunct) fossil localities are historically connected by a series of discrete migrations from common centers of origin, and Matthew’s (1915) assumption that centers of origin and migration can be literally read from the fossil record (Heads, 2005). These principles are evident in primate biogeography that assumes localities with older fossils or basal lineages record earlier sites of occupation
This is why my Grandma could die thinking the "track" was 'underneath' if she was ever to have given thought to it. It is kinda obvious she never did, nor did my Grandfather. I do not know if I can do better than John and Schwartz just now where he said (he thinks spatially, which IS what I would require),
Biogeographic analysis
The minimum spanning tree (track) method (Craw et al., 1999) is used here to characterize the spatial structure of dental-hominoid evolution in order to reconstruct the historical connection between the disjunct and vicariant distributions of hominids and non-hominid members of the dental clade. Disjunct localities of each taxon, whether living or fossil, are linked together as a minimal spanning tree, and these tracks are connected to each other by additional minimal spanning links. The spatial structure of the track is characterized with respect to vicariant replacement of taxa, the intersection of two or more individual tracks (nodes), and the distribution of centers of diversity (main massings). A biogeographic relationship between the evolution of dental-hominoids and earth history is inferred from the intersection or overlap between one or more tracks and the earths’ tectonic structure or geomorphology (geological correlation). The distribution of Homo beyond Africa is generally considered to be the result of one or more range expansions following an African origin of the genus. Since Homo is widespread and sympatric with respect to all other dental-hominoids, the biogeography of Homo lies outside the scope of the present analysis of the vicariant relationships between the basal hominids (australopiths, Orrorin) and closely related large-bodied hominoids.
but I think the "width" of the track needs to be empirically "triangulated"
thus I do challenge their division

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somewhat( (In Croizar's work it is very important to work on the difference across the Bay of Bengal, and for a herpetologist this amounts to spatial differences in lizard distributions between Japan and Korea etc) not simply a third organgutan on one side of Wallace's line). This is debateable by COLOR drawn by Papavero and Llorente as light blue in the picture above. I have referenced this work on
Edited by Brad McFall, : new paper by Grehan and Schwartz

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