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Author Topic:   On the Threshold of Bigotry
Blue Jay
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Message 14 of 333 (475241)
07-14-2008 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Artemis Entreri
07-14-2008 8:43 AM


Re: Liberty and Opinionation
Hi, Artemis.
Artemis Entreri writes:
I live in the country. what you are saying is not a factor. nice try Orlando, FL, but if this small town doesn't have it that one will.
No offense, dude, but "in the country" in Virginia doesn't have the same connotation as "in the country" in the West. I lived the last five years of my life in Utah, and there are places across southern Utah(where I worked), Wyoming, Nevada and western Texas where you could drive for over a hundred miles without running into a town, let alone a grocery store, only about one in five or six of which, I would say, even has a pharmacy. So, for some of us, the issue of distance and availability is a major factor.
Now, I'm not going to say that it would be bigotry on Phil's part to not supply a service (there are a lot of things you can't buy in southern Utah, but none of that is bigotry, either). However, if there was a demand or need for abortion pills in southern Utah or western Texas, and Phil, the only pharmacist for two hundred miles, refused to supply it, I might consider it a little inconsiderate or unfair of him. But, I don't think I could quite rationalize calling him a bigot for it.
Artemis Entreri writes:
Larry on the other hand is trying to make a law which will effect everyone in his area. Phil may effect 5 people a year.
It's not a numbers game, dude. The Constitution was designed so that issues wouldn't be solved on the basis of numbers. The five people Phil might affect have just as much right to fair treatment as the many thousands Larry would effect. So, the only question is whether Phil's treatment is fair, not whether he will affect as many people.

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Blue Jay
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Message 25 of 333 (475286)
07-14-2008 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Artemis Entreri
07-14-2008 4:18 PM


Hi, Artemis.
Artemis Entreri writes:
Im not calling larry a bigot, but i am calling him wrong.
Okay: I also didn't say you said he was a bigot. But, I apologize if I misunderstood you. Still, when you say this...
Artemis Entreri, msg #12, writes:
Larry on the other hand is trying to make a law which will effect everyone in his area. Phil may effect 5 people a year.
...you're backing up Phil, whose actions are affecting five people a year, on the basis that his actions aren't affecting as many people as Larry's actions. To me, that sounds like you're playing a numbers game.
I disagree with you, though, because I don't see how legalizing gay marriage would affect anybody but gay people.

Darwin loves you.

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