Cartoons and common sense

our law tells us that we can say what we want and express our opinions however we want so long as those opinions do not specifically cause real and present danger. i'd imagine the law in denmark is very similar. law is subject to the social contract of those who choose to abide by it. because we are not muslim, we are not bound by your law. if you do not desire to convert us, then you must stand down your law.our culture believes that the more opinions and information a person has, the more likely they are to make a good and right decision. we allow our law to be changed with time and with regard to what we view to be such good and right decisions. if you desire to apply your law to us, then you must admit your desire to convert us. we allow burning as a demonstration of free speech. but this is restricted to the burning of symbolic property owned by the person doing the burning and not public property or the property of others. if iranians do not own the danish embassy, they do not have the right to burn it. if an iranian owns a flag, he may burn it. our laws provide that the rights of individuals cease where the rights of others begin. hence, your right to be free of being offended do not exist because being offended does not harm you whereas restricting a person's free speech does harm him, indeed. damaging public and private property does people very clear harm, and thus, it is not protected.it's all well and good that you wish to follow the muslim law. we do not have to and never will.we respect others by speaking and allowing them to speak. we entrust others with what we see to be truth or reality or opinion and respect and trust them enough to require the same of them. we do not respect violence and destruction of property. killing people and burning buildings is not the same as drawing a picture.This message has been edited by brennakimi, 02-06-2006 06:14 PM

i tried to be as fervent as you but less reactionary. i see my point was not lost.i appreciate, however, your above post as a clear and precise exercise of your blessed freedoms and love it for thus. however, i do not see it as accomplishing much outside that. kind of like how women now take their sexual freedom and use it to catch diseases and unwanted pregnancies and medical procedures. but that's their right i suppose.

Qutb Sayyid - Milestonesi had to read this book for my political islam class a few years back. i've taken two classes on the subject and they had different approaches. this particular class was an analysis of islamic belief and shar'ia law. i really should probably give it another read, but i've never in my life thrown a book i was reading across the room. except this one. it's full of malice. it really, really is. even my muslim professors are afraid of it. wahhabism is one of few sects that proclaims that if you aren't a wahhabist that you aren't muslim enough. that's a very scary proposition and one that's distasteful to muslims.i have a muslim cousin. i have a muslim friend. i dig ramadan. it's awesome. you exercise fasting and then most families get together after dusk to break fast with awesome parties. it's hot. i love math. muslims like invented algebra and zero or something. muslims have a long history of tolerance. but everyone gets mussed up sometimes. and wahhabism is a mussing. it's really all that bad. read some. read from the source.btw. i also had to read this book Hamid Algar - Wahhabism: a Critical Essay for that class. it's an islamic perspective on the dangers of wahhabism. really, really. wahhabism is the source of islamic terrorism. now i'm sure that wahhabists love their children and give to the poor and shit the same way i do. but the philosophy is very dangerous.

well. the dumbass americans renamed french fries freedom fries even thought they are french in name only and are not actually from france. (they're from belgium.) i mean. how stupid do you have to be to do something like that?This message has been edited by brennakimi, 02-17-2006 11:25 AM