Cartoons and common sense

I think in this particular case, Cashfrog has a point. We aren't talking about student demonstrations or some kind of rally for the environment. These people, in particular wahhabism folks, hate us. Hate us! Hate us! Hate us!I don't know how I can make that any clearer. There is not even a small bit of love for Americans. None. Nothing. Complete and total hatred.Now, if you are a muslim demonstrating against the depection of your Lord in a Danish cartoon through the streets of an American city or in places in Europe, then perhaps your intent is just that.If you are a muslim marching through the streets of Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia... well, chances are your intent is the destruction of anything not directly linked to the nation of Islam and anyone that gets in your way. They didn't need a cartoon to demonstrate... they just needed an excuse.- Babelfish

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What? Your xenophobic paranoia? That is coming across loud and clear.

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I don't know where this comes from nor do I feel why I have to explain myself, but here goes.I am caucasion...- My current roomate is black.- My ex-girlfriend is Chinese- My current girlfriend is Latin- My LONG time girlfriend of many years (later college years) is Japanese- The church I attended most of my life is in the heart of Chinatown here in Houston and was the first to open it's doors to the Chinese community for worship. My father was instrumental in the program.- Not but a few miles from my own home is a Mosque and I was appalled when some asshat put up a ply wood sign, that called them terrorists, in the playground where Muslim children play.- A roomate in college that I had for two semesters... are you ready for this... is a Muslim from Saudi Arabia. I don't know how I could be accused of being xenophobic when I requested to be his roomate for a second semester when I returned. He was the one who hipped me to the jive of Wahhabism folks. It was by his own accounts of demonstrations that I came to understand just how deep their hatred for Xians is. He was quite imphatic when he used the term "hate".I don't want things to be this way. I want to be able to got to Baghdad and not have to sit on top of a humvee to do it. I welcome Muslims... ANY MUSLIMS... to come to this country. I would open my doors for them... and my arms. You think I want them to hate us? You think I want them to despise my existence? I don't. The problem is... many of them do.If you think I am in some way exaggerating about their hatred for us... then get on a plane. Go on... get on a plane and travel to Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia... find a wahhabism rally... wear a t-shirt that says "Christian American," on the front and "Up with Bush," on the back... and see how long you survive. Go on! Do it! Call it a social experiment.-Babelfish

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Interesting. And so the the conclusion you draw from your conversations with your former room mate is that all Muslims are dangerous terrorists? Or all Arabs? Or just brown-skinned people who are devout? Is that really what you room mate was telling you?

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Oh no. Not at all.

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I wonder if he was part of the elite of his country (he was studying in this country, after all) and if that had something to do with how he colored the discussions with you.

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I don't think so. I do remember him saying that his father was an engineer of some kind. The college in question was Sam Houston State... not exactly a top University.

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Did he mention that what support the Wahabbis have in Saudi Arabia is mainly a means of expressing fustration and anger at the corruption and nepotism among the Saudi rulers?

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I told him how one night, at a job I had, that the crowned prince and princess of saudi Arabia had rented out our entire facility for an evening. I was impressed, but he kind of laughed and said that the royal family was pretty much a joke.

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So, maybe you might want to flesh out your arguement

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Ya... maybe I was a little unclear. I was responding to Crashfrog, when he said that a crowd could be judged by the signs they carry. In this thread there are many photos of people with extremist views being depicted.I believe the point I was trying to make was that he was at least correct in this respect. I am well aware of peaceful demonstrations about the cartoons... which is why I chose to title my post "Pick your rally carefully." I appologize if my post was unclear.-Babelfish