Hi, IamJoseph. First, I want to apologize to you for being rude and childish and for not giving your points due consideration. It's kind of ironic that I criticized your belligerence with a belligerent style of my own.
IamJoseph writes:
The post must transcend the poster...
In other words, you shouldn't just blather out your personal opinions, but actually provide good commentary on the issue at hand? In all due respect, I do not believe you are doing this very well yourself (on any thread I've been on with you). In your own words:
IamJoseph, in "Spherical Issues," post #85 writes:
I had the same debate with a cosmologist, who said the universe has no centre. And he was backed by a host of other scientists and links, and presented his almost globally agreed position.
And I say its wrong.
I'm seeing this mindset in all your posts.
IamJoseph writes:
...and I find your response inadequate to the issue.
It probably was inadequate. I apologize. I hope you will consider the following response adequate:
IamJoseph writes:
I contend that not wanting to immigrate and not being able to are different paradigms.
I agree with you. However, who's going to complain about not being able to immigrate if they don't want to immigrate and don't know anybody who wants to immigrate? Your argument that the UK should demand reciprocity is asking them to start a conflict on a principle that, in the end, doesn't matter anyway.
Did you grow up with sisters? I have three. The younger ones would always say "no boys allowed in our room," and even put up signs on their door. This really didn't seem like a punishment to me, because their room was always painted pink and was full of dolls. So, I shrugged and went downstairs to watch cartoons.
Occasionally, I would attack the thing on principle, because it made me look powerless if I didn't, but that only led to fights, and I'd get a spanking or have to sit in the corner for an hour or something. I still wish I had been smart enough and humble enough to let it go.
What I see with this Muslim reciprocity thing you're talking about is that demanding that they change their ways will only lead to more wars (just like attacking my sisters' "unfair rules" would lead to fights), and nobody but US Republicans and Al-Qaeda seems to want that.
I'm also sure this will become a bigger issue to people when the Muslim population of the United States and/or other countries grows to macroscopic size, and Christians begin to realize that they may lose their religion to Allah.
But, it's a very conservative, Republican, Christian, Bill O'Reilly thing to do to start a conflict on a principle. Like you said
sometimes we may have to "take a stand" and offend or even kill somebody doing it, but, to do so where there is no need because of what
might happen in the future does not count as "sometimes" in my book (did you ever see the movie
Minority Report?)
Edited by Bluejay, : Apparently, it's not spelled "inadeaquate."
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