Your prediction about outcome of Super Tuesday

What is all this about the rep party having a "bunch of unelectable clowns" and that a dem will surely win? During the 2004 election, everybody, and I mean everybody both republicans and democrats, told me that there was no way Bush was going to win again. Then came the night that shall ever be known as the night I cried myself to sleep when it became clear that Bush was going to win with a popular majority.

what kind of backwards world do you live in, exactly?at best the silence of radical islam on the subject of obama proves nothing. maybe they're too busy being shot at in other countries to follow the american political process. maybe they just don't care because all american leaders are "the great satan." maybe the CIA just doesn't think that every video a terrorist sends us needs to make it to national TV. but reading silence as support is just ludicrous.and further, having professed to be another religion after being raised in an islamic atmosphere still makes obama an infidel. period, end of discussion. to claim that radical islam would be in support of an infidel is about like me claiming that you support richard dawkins, or maybe even anton levey. i think not. he represents everything they despise.

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fixed.no, really, the reason matters very little. all that matters is the decimation of the country at the hands of an occupying force, a broken economy and education system, and general desperation on the part of the people.war begets terrorism. it's been well known in the middle east for quite some time. you can't kill the leaders of terrorist groups, because these groups are like hydra. cut of the head, two more grow back. killing just turns terrorists into martyrs -- recruitment tools. and it just makes the situation look worse, like we're the agressors. especially since many of these groups are actually the closest thing some of these places have to infrastructure. attacking them it sort of like bombing elementary schools and hospitals, in the eyes of the locals. it just makes the resistence stronger.and you cannot win a war against a local resistence. they know they terrain, and they will fight more desperately.anyways. it'd be nice to have a chief executive in office that actually understood basic military strategy... though i'm not sure that would happen.

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Changed my mind. Hillary's margin will be less then 150 delegates (more like 50) That ellection may be decided at the convention by the superdelegates

Popular majority means nothing (see also: Gore).We all know how Bush got into the White House for his second term.

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John McCain, the pseudo Republican.

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BWAHAHAHAHA!Where did this silly idea come from that McCain was something other than a dyed-in-the-wool, hard-line conservative?The man was tortured but when Bush told him to back off the anti-torture bill, he did.He hasn't met an anti-choice bill he didn't like.His voting record puts him firmly in the pro-corporate/anti-union/anti-environment/anti-arts camp. He was in favor for the disastrous tax cuts, seems to think that there is some truth to the long-discredited idea that tax cuts raise revenue, and is against equality for all citizens regardless of sexual orientation.He wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years.Over his tenure, he has had a 90% approval rating from the John Birch society, 80% from the Traditional Values Coaltion, 100% from the Concerned Women of America, and 100% from the Eagle Forum.He thinks No Child Left Behind has been a good thing and that Baghdad is one of the safest places you can be.He voted against health insurance for children and for spying on Americans. He voted for infringement on free speech by supporting a Constitutional amendment against burning the flag, for Alito, for Roberts, for Bolton, and for the $40B gutting of educational funding.He voted for the disastrous extension of NAFTA to Central America, for the disastrous bankruptcy bill, and against the right of the people to form class-action suits at the State level.In this past year, he has voted with the Republican block 88% of the time. The average Republican only votes 80% of the time with the party.Do I need to remind you of his flip-flopping with regard to evangelicals? He called Falwell a stain on the American landscape and then immediately took it back in order to keep the religious right vote.This idea that McCain is some sort of "maverick" or "independent" or "libertarian" who can "stand up" to the conservatives is nothing more than a media invention. The fact that he voted to increase the minimum wage is hardly a sign that he's "bipartisan."McCain's a conservative. One of the most conservative candidates out there.

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Today, I saw a news item about Super Tuesday on television, in which the dilemma of Afro-American Democrat women was explained: should they stay true to their race and choose Barack Obama, or should they let their sex decide and choose Hillary Clinton?Frankly, I was appalled by this so-called dilemma. After all, their choice, if made for the motives mentioned, would amount to either racism or sexism. It should be clear that neither of these should inform their choice in the first place. What happened to "may the best candidate win"? Don't the policies the candidates announce count for anything?Does anyone else see the strangeness of this situation?Edited by Parasomnium, : changed a repetitive phrase into something else

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

Absolutely... That's the dumbest, most divisive thing I've heard in a long while. The sad thing is that many, many people will see nothing wrong with that line of thinking.And people wonder why sexism and racism still linger. Look no further than exhibit A, who while speaking out against both, also unwittingly keep these social ills festering by feeding the monster.The wonders never cease.That is all.

I agree. Sadly, too many do not see it as strange.In this election everthing but the issues appears to be the drive as to who wins. The yute are going for Obama in droves. Why? Ask them as Fox did and none of the answers have to do with the record of the candidate because there's none to look at. Their answers were like he's articulate or he's motivated etc.It was the immature impressionable yute who were significant in bringing Hitler to power in Germany.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Me wifie, me sister n law n me all went for Hucky. I see he's not doing bad so far at 9:50 EST.

In the caucuses, the little township I'm in went Obama 7, Clinton 2. In general, this township runs pretty "green". The gender split at the meeting was about 50/50. Both the Clinton votes were by women.The neighboring township has more people and is more conservative. Their vote went 50 something (~57) Obama, 30 something (~37) Clinton.I see Obama as being the stronger candidate. I'm scared of the mass of long term anti-Hillary sentiment that exists.Moose

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Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

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"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright
moron." - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

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"Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for ” but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson

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"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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I agree. Sadly, too many do not see it as strange.

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In this election everthing but the issues appears to be the drive as to who wins.

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So, voting based upon sexism and racism is bad, but voting based upon religious bigotry is OK?By the way, Buz, how many times did you vote for George W. Bush?The reason I asked is becasue you said in another thread that if you had known what he would do to the country, you never would have voted for him.Well, I had a very good notion of what he had done to the country after the first 4 years, as I assume you did, so I was just wondering if you voted for him the second time, too.

Well, I don't see much of a problem here. The U.S. is definitely not one nation with liberty and justice for all -- in particular, women and blacks as groups each have to deal with a lot more shit than white men do.I can totally see that a black woman might be wondering whether her interests as a doubly under represented and discriminated against minority would be better served with a candidate who might be sensitive to black issues but less aware of women's issues, vs. a candidate who would be all over women's issues but relatively blind to black issues.Then, there is also a case to be made that a black president or a woman president would be a good thing in itself -- in a society where segments face discrimination, having one of the discriminated classes in a position of power not only serves as a sign that the situation may be improving, but also provides encouragement for the members of that class to continue to work for true equality. Now, simply being black or a woman may not by itself over ride all other policy considerations, but it is a factor that could be taken into consideration with the other policy issues.Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

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Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter;
His empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows
And a parade of the gray suited grafters:
A choice of cancer or polio. -- The Rolling Stones

This topic is about this election. Briefly, my major problems with Bush have been to do with his 2nd term relative to Israel, Arms to Saudi Arabia, etc. Other than that I don't want to drift any further off topic.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.