Lying For Jesus Award

Such an award is pointless, in very bad taste and serves only to decrease the possibility of discussion.Any such award is the height of absurdity.Edited by jar, : No reason given.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Something from some other site.The only way such an award could even possible be anything less than counterproductive would be if it was promoted by the specified people themselves. For example if a Lying for Jesus Award was only proposed and voted on by the most fundamentalist members like Ray and Buz.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Because it is pointless, counterproductive and against forum rules.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Being a member of the group "Christians", the behavior of other Christians represents you.Whether you like it or not, non-Christians form their opinions of Christianity from the behavior of people who claim the title Christian. Frankly, for the most part, what is seen as Christianity is appalling.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

You have a real reading comprehension problem. Is it? Let's look? No. But does the bad behavior of one member of a group reflect negatively on all members of that group?The problem with Christianity is somewhat different.If you saw almost EVERY member of a group (Christians) exhibiting the same characteristics what would that tell you about the group in general?The fact is what IS seen of Christianity and racist, bigoted and ignorant people who seem to lie constantly, have a severe comprehension deficit and are totally dishonest. More nonsense copout and attempt to shift balm. It is the old "They are not Real Christians" defense, the old bit of pointing the finger of guilt anywhere as long as it is away from you.Christianity needs to clean house.If you want the term Christian to carry any respect, then speak out against those who do Lie for Jesus. Quit making excuses.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

That is a misrepresentation of what is seen.When folk form an opinion of Christian they base it on what is visible. What is visible are all the Christian Televangelists, the Pastors in the Pulpit preaching bigotry, the crooks and conmen like Dr. Dino and Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker and Oral Roberts and Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.Frankly, the image today of "Christian" is one of ignorance, racist and bigot. More copout and nonsense.What is seen of Christians is the portrait THEY create through the media. It is not some Hollywood mischaracterization. It is there very own documentary that THEY create defining what Christianity is.I said: to which you replied: How utterly disgusting can you get riVeRraT?Why ain't it gonna happen? You are making excuses through more wilfull ignorance. You say "That is why I am telling you, there is no Christians, only Jesus."That is simply a copout, a refusal to recognize reality.There are Christians. To say otherwise is just another of your attempts to point the finger elsewhere.Of course there can be bad Christians. Nor have I said all Christians are bad.What I have said is that the visible Christianity is bigoted, racist, dishonest and ignorant.We, Christians, need to change that image and that reality.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Yes I did leave out Child Molester and that TOO should be included.But I do not lump folk together just because they attend church but rather due to their behavior under the banner of Christian. When the Televangelist speaks out as a Christian, he represents all Christians. Damn right "WE".Unfortunately I am tarred by the same brush; other folk judge me based on the IMAGE of Christianity. I must work to show that I am in any way different. More nonsense and jabberwocky. Why can't people change? What does Liberal have to do with anything?More evasions and willful ignorance from you it seems. Sorry, all I see there is more denial and self deception.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

So far what you posted is "Yada, yada, yada, not me, yada yada yada." LOL Say what? Where do you get such stuff? What? Liberals that hate all Christians?Sorry Charlie but it looks like it is the Conservative Christians that hate Christianity. After all they are the ones actually attacking it. Well, no, it is honesty. And I doubt that you will ever see it.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Uh, no. I think you will have to look pretty hard to even find anything close to that.First I would say that the term "anointed of God" may be great in some hymnal but other than that is pretty meaningless.Second, what I said is that all who call themselves Christian become representatives of Christianity. Hell no. I think the expose our imperfections to other Christians is mostly Fundamentalist, Evangelical and Pentecostal braggadocio.What we need to do is speak out and condemn the Televangelists who promote YEC, bigotry, hate and exclusion. If we are not speaking out against the End Timers, the Defense of Marriage folk, the ID or YEC proselytizers, the 700 Club and Trinity Broadcasting and Sky Angel and all the rest of the Cult of Ignorance, then we are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Nah. Both of those are totally unimportant and personal.It is those who oppose really learning science and what the REALITY of the universe teaches us. It is those who would discriminate against homosexuals by denying them basic human rights. Guilty of what? You do realize that behaving better than the average Televangelist is not really a difficult or great accomplishment? Well not just Pentecostals but much of the Evangelical, Charismatic and Fundamentalist movements as well. Also I think disdain is far to weak a word, abject pity or disgust would likely be better.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

You are friends with individuals, not with movements.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

So when I mention Christ or something Biblical I am Fundy?Sorry but that defense doesn't wash either.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Great song from The Life of Brian, "Always look on the Bright Side of Life."It's comforting, isn't it to take your position. Look at the good saints.Unfortunately that is NOT what the outside world sees. For every Mother Theresa there are a dozen Gene Scotts or Benny Hinns or Jerry Falwells.Christianity today has the most advanced and vast propaganda network of ANY entity. It has it's own Networks, it's own Satellite systems, and is dominated by the Cult of Ignorance.Remember, the money is there, the ignorant will pay.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

There are clergy who speak out and speak up against the absolute nonsense like the End Timers as well as other examples of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.For example just a few days ago Barbara Rossing the author of "The Rapture Exposed" gave a speech on reclaiming Revelations. In it she said: There is also the Center for Progressive Christianity and the Christian Alliance for Progress just to name a few.BUT...reason is often not showmanship and making informed decisions is not as easy as having someone else think for you.The most common view of Christianity today is the Christian Infomercial as Sideshow known as Christian TV and preached several times a week, not from a pulpit but from the Carny sound stage that most Christian Churches have become.Today the Voice of Christianity is Not reason, but raw emotion, not intellect but passion, not questions but answers.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

The book series has been phenomenally successful currently having sold over 60 Million copies. I do not know how popular the video game is but the authors of the books seems to be absolutely, certifiably insane.They recently posted a defense of the video game where I believe they fully indicted themselves as downright crazy jihadists no different than any Muslim terrorist.From JerryJenkins.com: Like all End Timers, they are simply insane. To them it is perfectly okay to kill the "forces of the antichrist".Of course they are the ones that decide who those forces are.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion