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Author Topic:   Read anything by God or Darwin lately?
jay102
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Message 31 of 35 (567189)
06-30-2010 12:49 AM


I will read these books.

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AZPaul3
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Message 32 of 35 (567203)
06-30-2010 2:24 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Son Goku
05-29-2009 9:18 PM


Re: Bible
You can learn it better with modern books, I'd read them only for historical interest.
Agreed. But since it is my thing I read Origins for the history.
I want to tell you something. Your reaction to the bible is spot on with my own. Except for Revelations, since I am a history geek / Joseph Campbell fan and find that book to be a most fascinating work, your views are perfect. Good job, sir.
Revelations, when read with the "knowledge" is full of the most powerful imagery and stunning symbolism. Beautifully abhorrent and stunningly stupid. It and Genesis did more to turn me off to religion than anything else.

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misha
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Message 33 of 35 (567239)
06-30-2010 8:56 AM


I've read both.
I enjoyed reading Origin because I was in awe of how much Darwin could deduce without the benefits of modern science. He formed his theory without the help of genetics or radiometric dating and with a fraction of our current paleontological knowlege. The man surely was genious. The made plenty of notes in the margin tying his statements to the modern science that we know now.
I've read the bible plenty of times. I don't often read it cover to cover but I have read all of it. I think i've probably read the gospels the most, then Paul's letters, then the pentatuech, then the poetic books, then the histories (kings and chronicles) and probably least of all the major and minor prophets.
I have a hard time with the Church's subjugation of the gospels to Paul's letters. I just feel that most Christians make the mistake of becoming more Pauline than Christ-like. I continue to consider myself a Christian because of the teachings of Christ not Paul.

  
greyseal
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Message 34 of 35 (567559)
07-01-2010 3:47 PM


origin of the species and dakwins' the god delusion
I recently got hold of both of these books - one was a pickup at a charity sale, the latter was for my birthday.
Both are excellent, and I can't recommend origin enough for it's clarity and straightforward nature. It's also an excellent book to gauge how people thought back then.
Anybody criticising it had better have actually read at least some of it - same for Dawkins. Same for the bible. If you don't understand something, you'll just sound foolish to those who do.
for lighthearted diversions, try reading "armageddon??" StarDestroyer.Net BBS - Login and it's sequel "pantheocide"

  
Flyer75
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Message 35 of 35 (567580)
07-01-2010 6:59 PM


I'm currently reading OoS by Darwin. Not easy reading to say the least as it's taking me a bit to get through it. I will say that I have new found "respect" for him as a person at least. What he undertook was no easy task back in those days with very little about science being known and biology certainly being a fringe study.
I ashamedly have never read the whole Bible through but have undertaken the task this year.

  
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