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crashfrog
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Message 277 of 301 (398466)
04-30-2007 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 275 by macaroniandcheese
04-30-2007 8:33 PM


Re: Criminals will still get guns
tell that to the million dead in rwanda.
They died of blood loss and sepsis from nonfatal wounds.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1466 days)
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 287 of 301 (398514)
05-01-2007 2:45 AM
Reply to: Message 286 by anglagard
05-01-2007 2:31 AM


Re: A Parable that Really Happened
Some of the people said that fertilizer was a bad thing until others pointed out that it was a bit difficult to keep all the people and animals from taking a dump.
"Some of the people said that fertilizer was a bad thing"? C'mon, really? Are you really trying to tell me that, in the aftermath of Oklahoma city, there were really people who thought that Tim McVeigh had blown up all those schoolkids with a truck full of manure?
That's really not how I remember it. I'm of the opinion that your "parable that really happened" didn't, to a large extent.

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crashfrog
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Message 288 of 301 (398515)
05-01-2007 2:50 AM
Reply to: Message 283 by One_Charred_Wing
05-01-2007 1:35 AM


Re: Criminals will still get guns
If what you're trying to say is that it's easier to kill lots of people with guns than with a pair of scissors, then you're absolutely right.
That's kind of the point, though, isn't it?
Unless you'll suggest that a weapon has the potential to damage somebody's soul, the most potential a weapon has is to kill somebody.
How many somebodies in how short a time? Again, isn't that kind of the point? I don't see how the fact that you could, theoretically, beat someone to death with a boot represents an argument against placing checks on the availability of more effective means.
Again - if guns aren't a whole lot more effective at killing than boots, why were guns invented? That seems to be a point that you're glossing right over to maintain your utterly ridiculous equivalences.

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