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arachnophilia
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Message 6 of 72 (382251)
02-03-2007 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dubious Drewski
02-03-2007 7:13 PM


bfa's
I am 23 and have a Bachelor of Fine Arts.
ha! i laugh at your bfa!
actually, no, i don't. i don't quite have mine yet, and i'm 23 as well. but i can tell you at the end of my degree, i don't feel that i've learned anything significant at all. certainly, any of the fine-arts stuff i've learned has been incidental to my classes. they haven't taught me any of the skills i had hoped to learn. i still can't paint worth a damn. all they talk about this damned conceptual art stuff, as if skill doesn't matter. and it's all mind-rotting drivel.
My concern is that I see myself as a headstrong and naive guy who's got alot to learn, but at the same time, I cannot find flaws in my thinking.
neither can the sociopath. or possibly, anyone else. if we could see the flaws in our reasoning, we'd probably think something else. although i was caught slightly off guard when i pointed out a flaw in a professor's reasoning, and he admitted that he was aware of it and chose to believe differently anyways. *shrug*
truth be told, you sound like you have a healty degree of doubt. nobody can really foresee everything. there are always things to be learned that we were not even aware that we do not know. as we get older, we learn more and more. not just new things, but that we don't know other things. when our worlds are very small and young, we think we know everything because our experience is so limited. but as we age, we are exposed to more information that tends to complicate things. makes having answers harder.


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arachnophilia
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Message 11 of 72 (382272)
02-03-2007 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Dubious Drewski
02-03-2007 11:13 PM


Re: bfa's
The most valuable things I learned were in my philosophy classes. The importance of these things overshadows what I learned about making art by miles.
my art classes might as well be philosophy classes! lol.
As far as I could tell, the professors were there to give you conceptual guidance, that's all. They might advise on how to hold a pencil or what colour harmony is, but you can't expect skill to be handed to you, that's the part you have to work for.
(It's all about the homework.)
well, it seems to me that there a number of technical things that could be taught as well. for instance, take my concentration, photography.
i could be learning the zone system, fine manipulation of chemistry and exposure, lighting technique, composition, photoshop, etc. of course, you learn by doing. i'm not expecting skills to be handed to me... just, you know, covered in class.
some basic stuff is covered, sure. how to operate the camera. the relationship of aperture to depth of field, basically how to operate a darkroom. but there's so much more technical information that i could never learn in a million years putzing around in my bathroom under a safelight.
all the concentration seems to be on how you bullshit some kind of meaning into things, and what you say about the concept, not on the actual work itself.
that said, my photo professor really likes my "anti-conceptual" stances, as a concept. *shrug*


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arachnophilia
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Message 12 of 72 (382273)
02-03-2007 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by ringo
02-03-2007 11:28 PM


I have socks older than that (none of them has a Fine Arts degree).
some of my photo equipment is older than that. and i'm not!


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