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ringo
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Message 10 of 72 (382271)
02-03-2007 11:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Dubious Drewski
02-03-2007 7:13 PM

Drewsky writes:
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I am 23 and have a Bachelor of Fine Arts.
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I have socks older than that (none of them has a Fine Arts degree).
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I used to know everything too, but I've forgotten a lot.
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Message 52 of 72 (435154)
11-19-2007 1:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 49 by Stile
11-19-2007 9:21 AM

Re: Blissfully Ignorant <= Blissfully Knowledgeable
Stile writes:
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Can you show me an example where being blissfully ignorant is better?
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From an evolutionary viewpoint, being blissfully ignorant of birth control makes you more likely to pass on your genes. Being ignorant of your children's chances of survival would be pretty blissful too.
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The saying is, after all, that ignorance is bliss. You seem to be wanting to extend bliss to areas it was never intended to cover.
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Message 54 of 72 (435166)
11-19-2007 2:31 PM 		Reply to: Message 53 by Stile
11-19-2007 2:13 PM

Re: Blissfully Ignorant <= Blissfully Knowledgeable
Stile writes:
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I'm arguing that being informed is either equally blissful, or more-so, and not less.
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Maybe you should be looking for a different word. "Bliss" tends to imply a fairly unrealistic outlook: love-induced, drug-induced, religion-induced, etc. Since happiness is attenuated by reality, a realistic outlook seldom produces "supreme happiness; utter joy or contentment". Dictionary.com
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Message 57 of 72 (435183)
11-19-2007 5:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 56 by Stile
11-19-2007 4:50 PM

Re: Blissfully Ignorant <= Blissfully Knowledgeable
Stile writes:
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I actually do find a realistic outlook to produce "supreme happines; utter joy or contentment".
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I don't think you do. I don't think you're experiencing the kind of utter joy or contentment that can only come from being completely oblivious to consequences.
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For the reason that with knowledge, comes the confidence that you're getting closer to reality.
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Then the word you should be using is "confidence", not "bliss".
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That is, you can't have "supreme happiness" if your happiness is based on something that is false.
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Of course you can. Otherwise, there would be no such thing as religion.
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11-19-2007 5:59 PM 		Reply to: Message 59 by Stile
11-19-2007 5:53 PM

Re: Blissfully Ignorant <= Blissfully Knowledgeable
Stile writes:
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I'm sorry you can't find blissful happiness in reality.
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What I'm saying is that confidence in reality is much better than bliss. Bliss is empty.
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