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Woodsy
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Message 207 of 318 (450821)
01-24-2008 7:10 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by Rrhain
01-24-2008 12:05 AM


Re: Just to add to what Percy said
Science can tell you all sorts of things about a wave form: It's frequency, amplitude, energy, pattern, how far it will propagate in various media, etc. What it cannot do is tell you if it is "music."
Sure it can. I remember hearing on the radio of a researcher who formulated a set of rules for writing a popular song and gave a synthetic example that was very convincing. Anyway, I doubt that years and years of work by acoustics, neurology and musicology scholars have been entirely in vain.
I think that this "experience is unexplainable" stuff is highly overdone.

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Woodsy
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Message 254 of 318 (450961)
01-25-2008 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by Rrhain
01-25-2008 2:28 AM


Re: Just to add to what Percy said
But that requires an outside, arbitrary, socially-constructed definition of what a "popular song" is.
Maybe I wasn't clear. The point was that the rules produced music that most people liked when they heard it. One might say it produced "catchy" tunes.
I didn't say it was unexplainable. I'm simply saying that it
isn't science. That isn't to say there is nothing physical going on. It's that there comes a moment of arbitrary imposition that is not science.
I agree. The dividing line between noise and music is often fuzzy, especially in some modern musical works, but there is a distinction there. Too, as you say, how musical sounds are organized is also largely a matter of custom. Personally, I expect that these things could be described in an organized way and the description could be verified by observation.
There is probably an interesting discussion here, but I suppose it's off-topic for this thread. Pity.

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