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MangyTiger
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Message 51 of 150 (350097)
09-18-2006 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by ramoss
09-18-2006 9:03 AM


Electronic voting
Confirms my view that only an idiot would ever use electronic voting machines of any sort - they are just too vunerable to attack.
Call me a luddite but I like marking a cross on a ballot paper with a pencil like we do over here.

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MangyTiger
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Message 52 of 150 (350127)
09-18-2006 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by crashfrog
09-17-2006 5:58 PM


Re: a comment for our american friends.
I notice that you all brought him back for another go-around
Even though I didn't vote for Labour (remember we don't vote for the Prime Minister directly) the sad truth at the last election was that the opposition parties were still unelectable. No matter what people thought of Iraq, sleeze, the suppression of civil liberties and so on the alternatives were perceived to be worse.
The Tories might have rebuilt themselves enough by the time of the next election. The Liberal Democrats will still be completely unelectable.

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MangyTiger
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Message 116 of 150 (351171)
09-21-2006 7:42 PM
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09-19-2006 5:26 AM


Re: a comment for our american friends.
Okay, no offense but how does that get Brits off the same charge that Americans are stuck with?
No offense taken since I didn't say anything to suggest it did[1].
I merely pointed out my opinion that no matter what happened in Iraq New Labour was going to win the last General Election, just the same as no matter how badly Margaret Thatcher screwed up she essentially couldn't lose her second and third General Elections because Labour was an unelectable mess.
Just as an aside:
Isn't it true that if the people rose up and demanded change they could have gotten Blair out and someone else in... even if it was simply as a new choice for PM from within his party?
Actually no.
This has been much in the news this last week or so with the never-ending 'when will Tony step down for Gordon' story. The Tories have a straightforward mechanism for replacing a leader pretty much any time - which is how Mrs. T bit the dust. The Labour Party rules, on the other hand, make it more or less impossible for the Party to jetison a leader midstream.
[1]Or at least I didn't mean to. Apologies if my language wasn't precise enough.

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MangyTiger
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Message 117 of 150 (351174)
09-21-2006 7:56 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Silent H
09-19-2006 12:22 PM


Re: a comment for our american friends.
2) The US does not dictate the policies of other nations
You're joking right?
The US dictates policies to the point of toppling governments it doesn't like.
There is also the following comment from the President of Pakistan which will be on 60 Minutes this Sunday:
The United States threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age" unless it joined the fight against al-Qaeda, President Pervez Musharraf says.
General Musharraf said the warning was delivered by former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage to Pakistan's intelligence director.
"Do what we want or we bomb you back to the Stone Age" isn't dicating the policies of another nation?
Having said that I recognise Tony Blair didn't need any persuading to join Bush. It has been reported here that Bush gave Blair the chance to back out of the Iraq invasion if he thought it could lead to him losing power in the UK but Blair declined the offer.

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MangyTiger
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Message 147 of 150 (359176)
10-26-2006 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by nator
10-26-2006 9:05 PM


What if everyone agreed that it was "good and right" that girls shouldn't be educated because their place was in the home making babies?
And cooking. And cleaning. Oh and don't forget the laundry...
The scariest thing is that in the last couple of years I've seen interviews on TV over here with groups who actually do advocate this. Mostly they were Christian groups in the US, although there were a couple of Islamic groups as well.

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