George Bush leads us into the world of Kafka.

What, exactly, do you want us to do?I mean it's not like we have legitimate elections here anymore. And that huge military that's being waved around to oppress people around the world, or whatever? What makes you think we're not aware that's a weapon that can be turned against us, as well?Bush didn't exactly ask the people's permission to go to war, remember? He told us that he was going to, for reasons that he lied about, and then he did.The president's popularity is so low they don't even poll it anymore. As if it mattered - the president doesn't listen to polls. He says so all the time, and nobody seems to think that's weird. Elected by the people, but he doesn't think he's under an obligation to consider their will?I've seen what happens when the American people get out into the streets. Firehoses, jackboots, pepper spray, and batons. People "disppearing" in the system, like they did during the RNC in 2004.I'm sorry. Before all the rest of you nations get all up in our grill about "the American sheeple", or whatever, consider very carefully that functional self-governance in this country came to an end in 2000. I simply don't see what responsibility the rest of you expect us to take on these issues. The days when the American government enacted the will of the people were long, long ago.

You don't get it yet. People aren't. George Bush has never won a presidental election.Don't you get it? It doesn't matter how we vote. The results of the election have not determined the presidency since 2000. What makes you think that, exactly? Which we know George Bush did not win. It's like you're not hearing me. What does it matter if Bush and his ilk actually have the majority or not? That's not how we determine the presidency anymore. Your blame, as I said, is very much misplaced. What on Earth do you think the American public have to do with the policies of the American government?

It's my understanding that Bush et al. have all but suspended posse comitatus.

Well, based on their view that the prohibition against the military being involved in law enforcement represents an inconvenient barrier in the war on terror.Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.

He didn't do it without Blair, my glass-house-dwelling friend. I notice that you all brought him back for another go-around, and the thing was, your election was legitimate.

What makes you think that? Your natural faith in the eternal human goodness of the unwatched watchman?In fact, every time you have a system of visual surveliance, the guys watching the monitors spend far more time scoping out the babes than actually watching for suspicous activity or whatever. I can, actually. The US government doesn't exist to protect itself; it exists to protect us. The US government, in fact, has absolutely no business taking any sort of steps to protect itself. The government should be vulnerable at all times. How else do we ensure its honesty? That's nonsense. At that time, we responded to the terrorist threat in exactly the proper way - as a law enforcement problem - with exactly the proper results. Maybe you forgot that the first time the Towers were attacked, we actually caught and convicted the mastermind? Practically everybody in the government, starting at the top and working down, has done that and done it often. Doesn't seem to be working.

What's not specfic? The presidential elections in both 2000 and 2004 were shams.The 2000 election was decided by the Supreme Court, absent any Constitutional authority for them to do so. All the conservative justices voted for Bush; all the liberal justices voted for Gore. It was 5-4.After an unoffical full statewide recount, it was determined that Gore would have been the winner had the Supreme Court not halted the recount. Under almost every scenario, Gore is the winner of the Florida election:And that doesn't even begin to cover the tens of thousands of Flordia democrats who were illegally denied the opportunity to vote because they were falsely recorded as having been convicted of felonies - some records even had dates of felony convictions from the future.2004 was an outright fraud. The discrepancies between the exit polling and the actual votes have never been adequately explained. Explanations of mere error fall flat - such an explanation has the burden of explaining why well over 90% of the "errors", nationwide, favored Bush over Kerry. That's not something they've ever even bothered to address.Edited by AdminJar, : fix wide graphic

Bush used your guy's made-up rationalizations to send us to war. Without the "confirmations" so willingly supplied by Blair over there, there's no way Bush would have been able to sell the war here. Sure we did. We voted against Bush in both elections. He lost both elections.But he's still the president. What else were we supposed to do? Kill him?