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Author Topic:   Discrimination against homosexuals carried into the 21st century
jar
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Message 153 of 313 (378666)
01-21-2007 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by Rob
01-21-2007 1:39 PM


Re: right and wrong.
Let me point out yet another example of your inability to comprehend what is written.
Consistently, throughout this thread, I have repeated that other peoples sins are none of your business. I have repeated that what you think is a sin does not justify discrimination or law. I have pointed out that sin is between the individual and God. I have pointed out that behaviors can be sanctioned or prohibited by society.
Yet it appears that you have totally failed to comprehend, if you even read, what I wrote.
You then post:
So you discriminate against 'discrimination'? Then it's none of your business?
Do you discriminate against beastiality?
Do you discriminate against child porn?
What is the matter with you?
I do not discriminate against some imagined sin called discrimination. I don't even have a clue or care if discrimination is a sin. If it is, then that will be an issue between me and God.
The action discrimination though is another matter. That is MY business. As a Christian I must speak out against the action "discrimination against homosexuals."
I have asked you many times in this thread to address that issue. Instead of addressing that issue you, like all conmen, simply try to misdirect the readers attention so that they do not see you palm the pea, to change the topic.
You have not responded in ANY post in this thread to the issue of "Discrimination against homosexuals carried into the 21st century" except by saying you think homosexuality is a sin.
Unfortunately as has been pointed out to you many times, other peoples sins are none of your business. Sins are not something to be addressed by law, but only between the sinner and God.
Do you ever plan on addressing the topic?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 156 of 313 (378677)
01-21-2007 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Rob
01-21-2007 2:31 PM


Re: More off topic nonsense and attempt to palm the pea.
I do not discriminate against homosexuals. I descriminate against homosexuality, just as I do with other behaviors that are unacceptable.
Yes, that is what you do. What you have NOT done is show any reason for thinking homosexuality is unacceptable behavior other than YOUR belief that it is a sin.
Again, other peoples sins are none of your business. If you think homosexuality is a sin, do not practice homosexuality.
It really is as simple as that.
The rest of the post is simply more off topic nonsense.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 159 of 313 (378680)
01-21-2007 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Rob
01-21-2007 2:43 PM


Re: right and wrong.
If I must accept homosexuality as a valid lifestyle, then what do I have the right not to accept?
It doesn't matter what you consider a valid lifestyle.
You have a right to determine your lifestyle.
You do NOT have the right to base laws on what you think is sinful.
Other peoples sins are NONE of your business.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 161 of 313 (378683)
01-21-2007 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by Rob
01-21-2007 2:46 PM


Rob shows once again that he cannot comprehend what is written
Very good jar...
Now be consistent... If you think discrimination is a sin, then mind your own business and don't do it.
How many times do I need to repeat it. I have no idea whether discrimination is a sin, and if it is a sin it is between me and GOD.
I don't address any of your supposed sins, I address your behavior, your actions, your posts.
I repeat:
Again, other peoples sins are none of your business. If you think homosexuality is a sin, do not practice homosexuality.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 167 of 313 (378694)
01-21-2007 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by Rob
01-21-2007 2:53 PM


Re: right and wrong.
More shell games.
Don't you EVER get tired of trying to misdiret the audience?
Rob blathers:
So, it doesn't matter if we think that child moesting is a valid lifestyle?
It's none of my business or yours?
Consistency jar...
You've lost your mind.
What is the topic Rob?
You are typical of the Christian Evangelicals and Fundamentalists, typical of the Televangelist and other Snake Oil Salesmen and Conmen.
The topic is "Discrimination against homosexuals carried into the 21st century" not child molestation.
Homosexuality is a consensual activity between two adults. It is not an adult taking advantage of a child. For you to equate the two is simply more of the dishonesty so common today in Christianity.
The issue is whether or not homosexuals should be allowed to donate blood. The only possible negative consequence of homosexuals contributing blood MIGHT be the possibility of HIV infection. There are simple low cost procedures that would minimize that risk.
  • simply hold the blood long enough to test for HIV anti-bodies.
  • understand that the risk is HIV positive folk contributing blood, not homosexual people contributing blood.
  • understand that given the choice of bleeding to death RIGHT NOW and the minimal possibility of contracting HIV (which increasingly is becoming controllable) the choice should be made by the individual.
Again, other peoples sins are none of your business.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 183 of 313 (378723)
01-21-2007 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by Fosdick
01-21-2007 3:33 PM


Re: right and wrong.
Hold on. Do I have to be accused of being a Christian to disagree with this idea that homosexuality is restricted to adults? At what age does gay-ness set in? 18? 21? I thought gays were born that way, no choice at all.
Rob was trying to conflate homosexuality to child molestation. My guess is that someones sexual orientation will become manifest around ... guess what? ... puberty.
But like Robs posts, that is simply off topic attempts to misdirect the attention of the audience while you palm the pea.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 190 of 313 (378749)
01-21-2007 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by Rob
01-21-2007 4:12 PM


Topic Rob
Does any of that have anything to do with the topic?
Back in Message 167 I outlined the issue of the topic as well as several simple ways that the issue can be mitigated.
Do you intend to simply walk away after using up almost one third of the posts so far without EVER posting anything that was on topic?
In case you have forgotten, the topic is "Discrimination against homosexuals carried into the 21st century".

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 289 of 313 (379277)
01-23-2007 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by Fosdick
01-23-2007 4:58 PM


Re: Just opinions, that's all
Everything said so far on this thread and others about "gay marriage" are OPINIONS. Nothing else. In a democracy opinion rules if it gains a majority vote. So take a public vote on same-sex "narriage" and see what you get. What could be more democratic than that? But DON'T tell me that a minority opinion has special rights just because it's an opinion. These things are basic, folks. Why are they so difficult for perfectly intelligent people to grasp?
Denying inheritance rights is an opinion?
Denying someone the right to donate blood is an opinion?
Denying someone access to health care is an opinion?
Denying someone access to equal protection under the law is an opinion?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 298 of 313 (379321)
01-23-2007 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 295 by Fosdick
01-23-2007 7:30 PM


Bigots?
So the United states is a nation of bigots?
I'm not sure that calling the US a nation of bigots is that far wrong. The whole nation is not bigoted but a significant portion of the US population is bigoted, racist and very, very ignorant, particularly a large portion of Christianity.
Also, is there some reason you are avoiding responding to Message 289?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 304 of 313 (379339)
01-23-2007 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by Fosdick
01-23-2007 8:15 PM


Re: Just opinions, that's all
Well, they are opinions of the general public, at least, and also the opinions of the legislatures and courts of this "bigoted" country of ours. Do those count for anything?
Well no, they are not opinions.
An opinion would be "It is okay to deny rights."
The actions though are NOT opinions.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 307 of 313 (379342)
01-23-2007 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by Dan Carroll
01-23-2007 8:16 PM


Re: Good question.
Actually I doubt it is Ralph. He sounds more and more like Cliff Claven.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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