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Dr Jack
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Message 129 of 306 (313125)
05-18-2006 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by Silent H
05-18-2006 8:10 AM


Re: lemme get this straight
Teaching about love: to take an example from Denmark, children are taught at age 6 that there is this concept of love, that love has different forms (i.e "I love my mummy" vs. romantic love) and introduced to the concept that some people love people of their own sex.
I don't see any relevance at all in your comments about the presence or absence of the word 'love' in other languages. Unless you're subscribing to linguistic determinism that is.
Teaching about respect: that's pretty simple really, you shouldn't do things you don't want to do or try to get other people to do things they don't want to do.

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Dr Jack
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Message 132 of 306 (313141)
05-18-2006 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by CK
05-18-2006 4:08 AM


Re: No point debating
I was going to show you that actually we don't have many new ones and in terms of infections we has 100s of them running around pre-1960s but since you have already said you will not read the link - what's the point?
The point is that Faith is not the only one reading your posts.

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Dr Jack
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Message 167 of 306 (313433)
05-19-2006 4:51 AM
Reply to: Message 161 by Silent H
05-19-2006 3:06 AM


Re: lemme get this straight
I was in a relationship with a girl from Denmark and lived there for a bit. One of the people was specifically a teacher of small children. I do not know what you are talking about. You are suggesting that this is taught in schools as part of sex education? If not, I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
That is what was reported in a BBC news story on sex education, yes. I had assumed it was a standard part of sex education in Denmark, but this may not be the case.
I frankly don't believe your statement that love is a cultural concept. The way we express it may be, and the language to discuss it may be but I don't see any reason at all to believe that love is cultural concept. And it's all rather irrelevant since we do have a concept of love in our culture, and the language to discuss it.
Sex does not equal or necessitate love and vice versa.
Hell yes! However, I don't think sex education should be trying to prepare people for relationships not just sex.
I notice that while being dismissive of my post you have not attempted to explain why love would be part of, much less necessary for an IDEAL sex education program.
Because sex education is about preparing children for their later sex lives, and most people will face choices about sex within that context. Of course, children should understand that sex needn't take place within that context and that there's nothing wrong with that but that doesn't mean that the usual context should be dismissed.
Also, according to YOUR definition, it would seem that one should not be helping people overcome hangups against homosexuality.
Now you're just applying things completely out of context.

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Dr Jack
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Message 170 of 306 (313447)
05-19-2006 6:50 AM
Reply to: Message 169 by riVeRraT
05-19-2006 6:30 AM


Re: Who's in Charge?
Are you asking why it doesn't work, or why we think it doesn't work?
One is a matter of speculation, the other a matter of fact.

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