I argued that sex ed programs need only focus on physical issues involved with reproduction and protection (from diseases or pregnancy). This would deliver all that is REQUIRED to prevent harm, without adding cultural baggage which would cause people to reject the programs, or involve cultural indoctrination of others.
but the things is that abstinence
is a physical issue, and it does prevent std's and babies. there is no reason that it
shouldn't one of the issues discussed. just not the
only issue.
The programs schraf and brenna recommended involved cultural artifacts that did not make sense and would potentially be counterproductive. You CAN come up with a single program which discusses all of the physical dimensions of sexual activity as they will be the same for everyone everywhere, regardless of moral concepts and laws. One CANNOT come up with a single program that involves both physical and other dimensions of sexual activity.
contrary to some peoples' beliefs, sex is not a purely physical activity.
...it's not so much an issue of what is and what is not precisely legal, but how to avoid questionable situations.
You mean questionable situations such as fornication, or homosexuality?
no, questionable situations like having sex with drunk people. or getting drunk in the wrong atmosphere. that alcohol is a major factor in date-rape is not moralistic call, it is a statistical one. such programs typically talk about on that level -- be careful of who gives you alcohol.
These are against the law in many cultures. Do you think it is smart to have a sex ed program that either discusses legality from just the US point of view, or one that attempts to understand and discuss sex from the legal standpoint of all the different cultures they'd be taught in?
where did you get the impression it was about what is and what is not legal? i specifically said it was not. "rape" has a legal definition, but most sex-ed programs are not about the law, they are about protection.
Indeed I may paraphrase your later statements. Not only does abstinence fail, but so does avoidance of questionable or illegal activity.
yes, and i see no reason not to discuss
everything, and give people as much information as possible.
Emotional manipulation (ie "If you love me you'll have sex with me") equated to rape? Sheesh.
when consent is not freely given, it is rape. while that's a relatively weak form of coercion, it is coercion nonetheless.