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ReverendDG
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Message 159 of 306 (313388)
05-18-2006 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Faith
05-18-2006 5:45 PM


That's a very succinct accounting of the situation from the science-minded instrumentalist point of view. From that point of view it appears there is no other point of view. Sex is completely divorced from its cultural and moral historical framework and treated as nothing but a biological phenomenon and physical health issue.
yes because stds are purely cultural and moral and have nothing to do with the health risks involved.
You are speaking for one of the "cultures" of the "two cultures" that are in perpetual combat these days, that I've been trying to illuminate. All the descriptions of the problem and solutions to it from your side of the cultural divide have this pragmatic biological focus that to someone on the other side of the divide appears dehumanizing and culturally suicidal.
there arn't two cultures theres just one with many points of view, trying to polerize the issue is just wrong faith
abstinece-only sex eduducation will limit or flat out stunt children when it comes to sex and how to deal with it. what if we teach only abstinence and the person ends in a situation that abstinence doesn't cover? they will be lost and get into problems they have no way to deal with
but if we give them the knowelege to handle sex in an intellegent fashion with all the facts, both good and bad, they should be able to decide not to have it with out safty precautions
i tihnk you are adding baggage to something that shouldn't have it, you are making the leap it seems of thinking that if people know how sex works, that they will do it, which you have no evidence of this
i mean come on humans have been having sex for thousands of years but they didn't have a clue how it works - look at religions from any age before modern medencin
abstinece-only sex-ed shows that people do not think children are smart enough to think for themselves about thier bodies and should be afraid of them

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ReverendDG
Member (Idle past 4131 days)
Posts: 1119
From: Topeka,kansas
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Message 210 of 306 (313794)
05-20-2006 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by Faith
05-20-2006 1:08 AM


Re: I'll explain it to you AGAIN, Faith
No, this is a distortion of everyones argument, no one has said one way or another about sex outside marrige. you are still making the leap that knowing about sex leads to the act of sex, this is nonsense.
abistince-only education leads to problems because of ignorance, this is an if sinario, though i do not have kids if i did i would tell them everything including its best to wait for marrige, but if they decide not to wait then i want them to know all about the safty precautions
a parent who wants abstinece-only taught is a terrible parent, who is blind to reality by thier beliefs, they don't know the future they can only hope the child does whats best, which they hope is marrige first
limiting what the child knows is the worst thing a parent can do
Edited by ReverendDG, : No reason given.

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ReverendDG
Member (Idle past 4131 days)
Posts: 1119
From: Topeka,kansas
Joined: 06-06-2005


Message 259 of 306 (314246)
05-22-2006 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by Faith
05-20-2006 1:56 AM


Re: it's late & the nincompoopery is getting to me
Maybe I did misunderstand the position you hold, if i did i'm sorry i must have been half awake at the time,

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