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riVeRraT
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Message 58 of 168 (364872)
11-20-2006 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
11-07-2006 3:27 AM


Is Haggard apologizing for his infidelity or for his gayness?
I feel that he is apologizing for the harm he has done to those that look up to him, and his family.
I do not feel like it is damage control only, but that he is doing damage control by taking 100% of the blame, as he stated. There is obviously some repercussions of his actions amoung the people that like him, and he wants that to stop. He's already caused enough harm.
Is the dark side that he talked about his urge to commit infidelity or his homosexuality?
Both maybe, and more. We all have a dark side, and struggle with what is right from wrong in out minds. Plenty of people do things that they think are wrong.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 90 of 168 (365084)
11-21-2006 5:47 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by nator
11-20-2006 2:55 PM


Re: maturity
I do, however, think it's a bit naive to be surprised that nobody would think that putting open mouths (that appeared to me like a woman's with red lipstick on) over men's urinals would be off-putting to many.
Well you probably wouldn't find one in a church, lol

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 91 of 168 (365085)
11-21-2006 5:55 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Silent H
11-20-2006 6:44 PM


Re: maturity
Remember I come from america too. That t-shirt doesn't say that to me, and it wouldn't have looooooong before I came to europe. Oh its rude and crude (derogatory), but it doesn't say anything about crimes against anyone. Its humor. Not everything has to be taken with a political perspective, and certainly not everyone in america does.
Kind of anal to think so too. Reminds me of a black guy I got stuck working with a while back in Harlem. Every other word out of his mouth was, "well the white man says, or the black man says". He had a reputation for that, and after about two weeks of working with him I had to tell him to stfu because, I never had no slaves, my daddy didn't have any slaves, and my grandfather never had a slave, and I think if you go back far enough we were probably slaves at one point.
It was so bad his racism that it was a long running joke at our job. If the boss asked us to paint a register white, or even mention the color black or white, we would ask, "whys it gotta be white?" "why cants it be black?" Both white and black people participated in this long running joke. I think it's been over twenty years now, and it still goes on.

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