I'm mostly dodging this political debate as likely not to be fun, but I'm very curious about a couple things you said, Dan. I have not read the whole 87 post thread yet, so if this has been covered, sorry.
I do think that as long as the 2nd amendment is on the books, it should be followed.
Based on only what a couple liberals said to me (so maybe my sources were the exception), I thought it was a typical liberal position that the 2nd amendment referred to militia only, not the right of individual citizens.
I will note that a Google search turned up liberalswithguns.com that says a lot of liberals are pro individual citizens having guns for the sake of national defense. I didn't have time to find any more liberal web sites, because my search almost exclusively turned up anti-liberal web sites that I of course can't use to know the average liberal mind.
As has been explained to you over and over (and over and over) again, liberals don't think manger scenes should be illegal.
Can you explain this to me, too? I'm pretty sure I've heard real news reports about manger scenes being protested. Do you just mean that they ought to be legal but not displayed in publicly owned buildings? Isn't the manger scene about as directly promoting of one religion as things get?
I'm not for characterizing liberals as anything, and I think the OP is ridiculous. I read "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them," and I found that Al Franken and I mostly agree on the issues he covers, so please don't take this as some sort of attack. I'm really just asking two questions.
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