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Author Topic:   Karl Rove: Traitor?
Meeb
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Message 137 of 271 (224452)
07-18-2005 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Monk
07-18-2005 4:28 PM


Re: Rove should stay
When Hollywood gets involved, they will really cash in. Hollywood will either put out a made for TV movie or maybe a full length flick like they did a few years ago about Reagan played by Brolin, remember that? Hollywood will jump at the chance to smear Bush. Look for it, it’s going to happen. Oh yes, we have only just begun to see the Wilson / Plame media campaign.
Well first you have to undertsnad that Hollywood is an industry area for film industry. There is no "big Hollywood company", just studios that put out movies that they feel can make money for them.
That's why for example Jerry Bruckheimer makes only patriotic movies with machismo and explosions. And that's why Oliver Stone makes movies of conspiracies and trying to show the "other side" of things. It's kind of a Jing&Jang thing. Keeping the views in balance and trying to bring in enough money to satisfy the shareholders and to make another.
To claim that only slandering films come out of Hollywood is pretty stupid thing to say (admins, ban me if you must for that, but I stand behind it 110%).
Besides, I wouldn't call "DC 9/11: TIme of Crisis" a slander of Bush.

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Meeb
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Message 139 of 271 (224466)
07-18-2005 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Monk
07-18-2005 5:31 PM


Re: Rove should stay
It was a reference to all movie producers as a group and that not all, but a majority of them have political views that are decidedly left of center, in other words, holding more positions in support of Democratic politicians and policies.
Name some. Is Jerry Bruckheimer a leftist? How about Mel Gibson, Arnold Swachawnr... Strong, Joel Silver, Bruce Willis, Charles and Lawrence Gordon, John Davis, Gale Ann Hurd, John Cameron, Chad Oman and many others as leftists? And while we're at it, let's not forget: Is John Milius a leftist or even close to the center?
I don't see any attempt at all to "keep views in balance".
Let's see, IMDB says that last year (2004) 17370 movies (this includes straight to video and TV stuff) were released. How much did you spend time and effort to actually find the movies that you would like to see instead of just complaining about how you are brainwashed by forcing you to go see films with "leftist agenda".
When that happens, Joe and Valerie will get rich (or more rich than they already are).
Are you sure? I heard Jessica Lynch didn't get anything from "Saving Jessica Lynch". Depends on who writes it, but to quote Gary Brandner: "For each sequel they made, I received a check which I wasn't embarrased to cash in."

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Meeb
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Message 141 of 271 (224558)
07-19-2005 3:24 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by Monk
07-19-2005 12:27 AM


Re: Rove should stay
Do you understand what the word Majority means?
Ofcourse I do, but do you understand the diffrence between an actor and a producer/director. 90% of thew people on yout list are actors, with the ability to put themselves in other peoples mind.
To quote R. S. McNamara: "If we are to deal with terrorists across the globe, we must develope a sense of empathy - I don't mean "sympathy", but rather "understanding" - to counteir their attacks on us and the western world".
I noticed that you put Michael Moore in your list. Just a note: Moore is an independant filmmaker, not a "Hollywood mogul".
Also you put in a couple of singers that have only minimal activity with the Hollywood industry.
And since your list is a direct rip-off of Hollywood Boycot List by Jon Alverez, the leader of the PABAAH, that has on their websites a "kick the UN out of the US" and "no foreign born president" petitions.
Even this:
http://www.pabaah.com/modules.php...
should tell you that the list and the site it was on is nothing but a propaganda machine that would make Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf smile of joy.
How about next time actually checking out these people, who they are, what have they done, why have they done it, before just copying and pasting a list.
. I said that for the most part, Hollywood leans to the left and supports Democratic viewpoints. I don’t need to watch more than 17,000 movies to conclude that.
Really? So out of those 17000 movies you are forced to go see those that you know include something that you don't like? Oh my, them evil Hollywooders are out to get ya!
Yea, I’m sure Wilson did just fine with his 7 figure book deal at Carroll & Graf Publishers.
You mean the book published in April last year? Oh, it's really sad that people can't write books and make money out of them. Can you give a source where we can read that Wilson actually go million something out of his book deal?
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Meeb
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Message 147 of 271 (224698)
07-19-2005 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by Monk
07-19-2005 2:50 PM


Re: Rove should stay
Notice I said "Democratic celebrities". The term celebrity may not necessarilly mean we are only speaking of actors.
Notice that you used the term "movie producers":
It was a reference to all movie producers as a group and that not all, but a majority of them have political views that are decidedly left of center, in other words, holding more positions in support of Democratic politicians and policies.
when I say Hollywood I mean those individuals living somewhere in southern California who are involved in making movies.
So, what does Sheryl Crow, Peter Buck, Michael Stipe, CCH Pounder, and Moby are doing in your little blacklist?
Regarding the list. You asked for it so I gave it to you.
I asked you for names of producers, you gave a modern day blacklist.
Maybe you believe there is no political bias at all and "Hollywood" types are not political at all.
Or maybe you just don't see the movies you like. Get over it.
But my original point was that some group in Hollywood is going to make a movie about the Wilson story and when they do, Wilson and his wife will make a bundle.
And once again I ask: Where is the source for this? Did GWB get any money for "DC 9/11"?

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