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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 242 of 271 (286548)
02-14-2006 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by crashfrog
02-14-2006 2:30 PM


Re: Hotdiggity! Cheney ordered leak of classified info?!
Did you think that we were idiots who forgot what Bush campaigned on in 2000?
Well, I didn't forget, because I voted for him based on his campaign promises. An end to destructive, imperialist "nation-building." Individual freedoms and liberty. A restoration of dignity to the White House.
Instead, we got the Iraq quagmire, USA PATRIOT and anti-gay amendments, and a President who says "nukular" and chokes on pretzels.
Bush has been remarkably dishonest about his intentions; he's shown a remarkable ability to flip-flop on the issues. One day it's a committment to reduce fossil fuel dependancy and expand alternative energy sources; the next day its "I was only speaking metaphorically" about the reduction and he's laying off half of the alternative energy research staff.
I voted for Bush too crash. (although I didn't make that mistake the 2nd time)... I've been regretting it everyday since. Although one good thing is that I am MUCH MORE diligent about doing research on political issues and points of view than I was before. Bush has also made me question many of my own beliefs (always been an atheist, but I used to be a big-time right-winger). Bush made me realize that much of what I had believed for much of my life was total crap. I guess I can thank him for that.

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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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From: Bartlett, IL, USA
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Message 262 of 271 (287755)
02-17-2006 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 261 by randman
02-17-2006 3:45 PM


Re: Consistency and Honesty and integrity lacking in Bush administration
We have to agree to disagree there because I think they do.
Randman, you don't even have a basic level of understanding about what liberals believe. I'll try to explain it to you.
The liberal position is the one that distrusts ALL authority. That's right, ALL authority. (I'm very familiar with both the left and right, having belonged to both at variou points in my life). Liberals are much more distrustful of authority than conservatives.
Now, here is the kicker. Liberals believe that some things are just not suitable for private enterprise. Healthcare being a good example. If I have the choice between a corporate bean counter deciding whether I live or die as opposed to an elected official that I HAVE THE POWER TO CHOOSE of course I'm going to go for the elected official.
Some liberals, are very socialist.... but I think that's a minority position here in the states. I'm a pretty strong capitalist, but sometimes you have to admit that certain things work better as a govt. monopoly. Local power generation is a good example. Deregultion of the power industry is one of the bigeest disasters in modern history.
We shouldn't try ot create markets in places they don't belong.

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