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For the Christians here: Why do the heathens rage?

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tsig
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Message 51 of 79 (193578)
03-23-2005 1:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 10 by arachnophilia
03-22-2005 5:29 AM

thus the word "try." i've more or less come the conclusion that we as human are not able or indeed ready to comprehend exactly what god is about, to the infinite extent of his being.
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The addmission of ignorance is the beginning of learning.
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Guess wer'e all just bits 'o bacon to Pecos George
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Message 54 of 79 (193589)
03-23-2005 2:56 AM 		Reply to: Message 52 by Phat
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Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
We try so hard to be perfect instead of admitting the impossibility of perfection
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vs.
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God wants more from us than to be hopelessly imperfect and simple.
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How can we admit the impossibility of perfection if god wants us to be perfect.
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How do we achieve our destiny?
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Get out of bed in the morning.
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03-23-2005 3:24 AM 		Reply to: Message 55 by Phat
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Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
The fundie would argue that God wants us to achieve perfection through the process of surrender to the Holy Spirit who then indwells us and raises us to perfection through communion.
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The scientific and/or practical literalist would disagree, saying that surrender to an ideology is akin to checking ones brains in at the door and becoming a blind sheep.
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The Bible guy would respond by saying that to truly see, one must become blind. To truly have revelation, one must find the truth through the acceptance of a personal relationship with the Truth Himself.
What would DHA say?
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None of this is responsive to what I posted.
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03-23-2005 4:23 AM 		Reply to: Message 57 by Phat
03-23-2005 3:32 AM

Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
My point is that you may believe that perfection is obtained through individual initiative and effort while I may believe that perfection is obtained through surrender to God.
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What is perfection?
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By what standards could we judge perfection if we are not perfect?
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Message 62 of 79 (193714)
03-23-2005 3:50 PM 		Reply to: Message 60 by Phat
03-23-2005 10:47 AM

Our story
No. Well actually, DHA and I are showing how we can disagree without my feeling like the Heathen are attacking me. What do you think, Jar? Is this related to the topic?
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That's our story and we're stikin to it.
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Ok Phatt, is it worth another topic?
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03-24-2005 8:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 66 by jar
03-23-2005 10:55 PM

Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
That's all GOD expects of anyone, Christian or Atheist.
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How can god have any expectaion.
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03-24-2005 3:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 75 by jar
03-24-2005 8:34 AM

Re: Die Hard Atheist meets Dyed in Wool Fundamentalist
Lost me there. Can you help? What exactly are you questioning
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How can god feel emotion?
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