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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
For the first time since I can remember, I agree with Schraf.
Theus, your worry is pointed towards the wrong religion I am afraid. Allow me to quote an unclassified briefing I gave earlier this week:
This will be an unclassifid brief on President Amadinejad by Tal: (Considering my 1VB audience, I will condense this down to the nuts and bolts and put it in 1VB speak.) President Amadinejad, or as I call him, President Tom, has a Doctorate of Engineering from Tehran university and taught there for many years. He wasn't actually the frontrunner in the last election, but won anyway. Whoopadeedo. The importants stuff: His political and religous views are that Israel needs to be wiped off the map. He's said it publically many times; most recently this week. He believes the Mahdi, or 12th Imam (aka the Islamic Messiah) can only come back if the good Islamic people prepare the way for him; or blow up Israel and the US. This is what's driving his politics. Christianity is simply waiting around for their Messiah (Jesus) to come back and whoop the bad guys. Amadinejad believes he can influence the divine timetable, and thus is paving the way for the Mahdi to return. In essence, the Islamic people must whoop the badguys before the Islamic Messiah returns. The Mahdi belief is shared by ALL of Islam. Not just the nutjobs. I don't have the quote on me (I think its classified, as I didn't turn anything up on google) but Amadinejad said something to the effect that there would be a pin prick that would ignite a great fire...or words to that effect...4 days before the Hezbos performed their raid to kidnap those IDF forces along the Lebanon border. Coincidence? Of course not. Great! Now we've established President Toms motive. But let me illustrate just how pervasive, and how far back, this belief is. Islam also believes in Jesus. Not only thath, but they believe Jesus will return with the Mahdi. When they return, the dead shall rise. Exhibit AGate Beautiful (Golden Gate) Islam believes that when Jesus returns, he will enter Jerusalem through this gate. So they did what any good anti-semite would do. They walled the gate up, and burried their warriors all in front of it so that when Jesus returns, there will be a standing army of faithful Muslims waiting for him. That's how far back this thing goes. Let me finish by quoting President Tom from his speech he gave to the UN last September:
quote: Scared yet? This is pre World War III (or IV..or V...or its already started, however you want to look at it) Lines are being drawn. Sides are being chosen. It WILL come down to us, or them, and I don't mean just the freak Islam boys. I mean the entire religion. Not very PC to say, but its the truth nonetheless. If anyone is interested do some research on South America and how terrorists are using the drug trade there, among other things. Oh, and then there is Hugo Chaves who has been quoted as saying that he feels love and compassion for all the Arab people, and might actually be Arab himself. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
So about a zillion people share this belief and it's a central part of islam but it's not mentioned anywhere? Have I got that right? The quote I was talking about was President Tom's speech, not Islamic bleief in the Mahdi. As to Chavez, he gave that interview in Qatar. I'll let you decide who his friends are. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Isn't there some term for disclosing classified information? Cute, but irrelevant. The source I got the quote from was classified, but the speech he gave wasn't. I just can't find it with a quick google. Obviously, I can't quote the source. Its not on the internet anyway (or I would have quoted it) Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
I dont' care if Mr. Chavez doesn't take his marching orders from Washington. What I do care about is that he is chosing his side for himself and his country. Remember I said tha lines were being drawn and people were picking sides. Chavez is simply an illustration of that.
n an interview with Qatar-based Al Jazeera television, Chavez also slammed U.S. backing for Israel, describing Washington as a "Dracula always searching for oil and blood". "The Israeli offensive against the Palestinians and Lebanon is an aggression that we feel targets us also. It is an unjustified aggression that is being carried out in the style of (Adolf) Hitler, in a Fascist fashion," he said, referring to the leader of Nazi Germany. "They (Israelis) are doing what Hitler did against the Jews. They are killing innocent children and whole families," he said in the remarks dubbed in Arabic. On Thursday, Chavez said he ordered the withdrawal of Venezuela's ambassador to Israel in protest. The Lebanon war, which erupted after Hizbollah snatched two Israeli soldiers in a border raid on July 12, has coincided with an Israeli offensive in the Gaza Strip to recover another captured soldier and halt Palestinian rocket fire. Chavez, on a visit to Doha where Al Jazeera is based, said Israel was carrying out an "imperialist offensive" against Lebanon and the Palestinians that was orchestrated by the United States as part of a bid to control the energy-rich region. "The American hand is pushing them. It is behind the Israeli aggression, it is an imperialist aggression ... and Israel is one of the imperialist tools." Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Just to clarify, we are talking about the Islamic Republic of Iran. Yes, they are mostly Persians. Raical history doesn't matter. Shia Islam is the key. Finagle with semantics, or keep on track with the discussion of President Tom's beliefs.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Hey, sign up for Jihad Chiro. See you on the battlefield.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Raical history doesn't matter. lol You are the one that broght it up. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
That's a hoot. I work with 97 Echos. I"ll have a list of questions for ya!
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
You really shouldn't be worried about military interrogators. You may want to shift focus to the real problem; which, I notice, you seem to be ignoring.
These pictures remind you of another youth program? Germany in the 40s perhaps? Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Wow. The last time I checked, JROTC and ROTC don't teach bigotry and genocide in their curricula. The comparison simply shows how moronic you truly are.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
How about instead of complaining about an inevitable war, doing a little bit to disarm conflict when you see it. Join Amnesty, or if you've already stereotyped that group try just saying "hi" to a Muslim to let them know that they're not isolated from the rest of the world. I'm not complaining. That is my assessment. I have spent 6 months in Egypt and 8 months in Baghdad. I've met many fine Muslims there. Don't stereotype me
It is on individuals, such as yourself and Amadinejad who seem to think that some apocalyptic conclusion is necessary to justify your beliefs. Reread my post. I don't need anything to justify my beliefs. Amadinjad does, and is pursuing just that end.
The power of such a sentiment, particularly when espoused by leaders of nations, is very dangerous. Ding.
Very few people do things because they are trying to be evil, the vast majority of us are doing things we think are good based on the limited information we have. Hopefully with time the internet and other mediums will help corrode such differences in reality perception. The world will never perfect, but there's no reason that it can't be reasonable for everyone. A agree with your summary, unfortunatley ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force. Amadinejad doesn't believe he is being evil either. If he has to kill a few million jews to usher in the Mahdi than that's for the good of Islam. Keep in mind this is the country that sent thier children to the Iriania Egnineers in the Iran/Iraq war with gold keys tied around their necks. Then the engineers sent these children into minefields. The gold key was the key to paradise, so who cares if they blow up? I don't think Amadinejad will be pursuaded by an internet debate on the subject. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
I would venture to say there were many Nazis that were indeed very good people on the inside. Oscar Schindler being an example. Instead of a political party running 1 country (Germany) just before WWII, its a religion that exists in almost every country. Now muslims disagree on alot of things in their religion. That's why you have Shia and Sunni, who like to kill each other. But there's 1 thing that unites the entire religion: Fighting against Israel.
Again, we aren't there yet. But that's where we are headed. Edited by Tal, : No reason given. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
You seem to be missing the forest for all the trees. Take a step back. This is common practice. Palestinians send thier kids to blow themselves up rather regularly with the promise of 72 virgins and lots of money for each Jew that they kill. That money used to come from Saddam, but the US and GBR took care of that. The point here is to explain why this female would blow up her 6 month old baby on the planes leaving GBR last week. I know I couldn't hurt my kids, but these people don't care because their children will be going to paradise. If they strap C-4 around thier kids today, does it take that big of a logical leap to think they would do it to clear mines a couple of decades ago?
Again, what a baby is going to do with 72 virgins is beyond me. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
A) Germans had values like any other society. After Hitler came into power the populace was desensitized by indoctrinating them and their children.
Hitler Youth
Hezbos Youth
Hamas Youth
B)What do you base this assessment on? The Palestinians teach their kids hate.
No webpage found at provided URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH4UuWFk5Sg&mode=related&search= Page not found - WND The documentary also juxtaposes the children's programming with television news reporting, in which the news anchor - reflecting the same message the children are receiving -describes Palestinians as "noble, courageous" fighters, while describing Israel as "mean, fascist, racist, genocidal" and "Nazis." Other "highlights" of the "Children's Club": * Groups of children are gathered together, shouting for "Jihad against Israel."* One girl, who appears to be in a Palestinian school classroom, sings of donning "battledress" to "attack the Zionists."* A small girl chants the now-familiar ditty, "When I wander into Jerusalem, I will become a suicide bomber."* An adult narrator reads material in a Palestinian school pamphlet: "I have raised my children for jihad and on the principle that they never give up on their land."* One segment depicts a small boy on the street chanting, "Revolution until victory."* Another boy is shown in class proclaiming, "We will settle our claims with stones and bullets." Palestinian Textbooks Teach Anti-Israel Hate | CAMERA What do the Palestinian schools teach? Ninth-graders study from official textbooks that assert, "treachery and disloyalty are character traits of the Jews and therefore one should beware of them." Jews are cast as Satanic, violent and cunning, as "thieving conquerors" who have stolen Arab land and must be fought and defeated. Jihad and martyrdom are glorified as the means to liberating "Palestine" and children's poems contain calls to war and bloodletting. Fifth graders memorize such lines as, "I shall take my soul in my hand and hurl it into the abyss of death." The same verses are recited by children on official Palestinian television. Sixth-graders read of a young boy growing up with "the love of Jihad flowing through his veins and filling every fiber of his being." "Joy" comes only at "the sight of the enemy lying dead" or "fleeing for their lives." No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.pmw.org.il/tv%20part11.html So on and so forth. This is what they teach thier children. Now I would like you to show me examples of Palestinians that want to live in harmony with Israel. Wil kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
I heard it translated "72 white flowers" from a native of Baghdad. I hope Satan has a dozen white roses for them when they get to hell.
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