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Author Topic:   Where is the "leftist" media in the US?
Hyroglyphx
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Message 18 of 116 (332903)
07-18-2006 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by nator
07-18-2006 7:53 AM


The Liberal Media
In a recent thread, it was claimed in an aside that the US mainstream news media, including PBS, was "leftist".
I quite enjoy alot of PBS specials and always have, but they are transparently to the left. But you know what, they are a Public Broadcasting network and they reserve the right to believe as they want. Who does NOT have the right to be biased in any way, shape or form are the major media outlets. Their job is to report news, not create their own version of events or distort the facts or suppress information that might run counter to their penchant for going to the left. If the media leaned any further towards pro-liberal views your tv would fall on its left side.
http://www.mediaresearch.org/
There was a vain attempt made, by several posters, to point out to the claimant that the news outlets mentioned were generally centrist, not leftist, and that their own far-right position made them think that everything left of their own view was "leftist".
I want a centrist media. I don't need to hear conservative or liberal flavors, I just need the facts!
I myself asked the claimant the obvious question, "CBS, ABC, NBC, and PBS are all Communist news media?"
Some are worse than others. I'll put them in order of blatant bias.
Slanted to the Left:
1. CBS
2. ABC
3. PBS
4. NBC
Slanted to the Right:
1. FOX
Centroid:
1. MSNBC
As far as newspapers go, I only read one.
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because, to me, "leftist" means "Communist".
That's one version of the leftist. Those are the ultra-leftwing wingnuts. Socialists are a tamer version.
[qs]I am hoping that someone (hopefully the claimant) can show how the US mainstream mnews media is truly leftist and not centrist.[qs] Watch what they choose to cover and what they don't. The Chinese government is harvesting peoples organs, but no, they feel compelled to lower morale by informing us when US soldiers die or when an Iraqi civilian got caught in the crossfire. I think harvesting organs is pretty big news, don't you? And yet, not a word of it.
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Hyroglyphx
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Message 27 of 116 (332934)
07-18-2006 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Faith
07-18-2006 1:19 PM


Re: Goldberg's book "Bias"
Perhaps Nemesis Juggernaut's rankings would be my own, I don't know. He says MSNBC is centrist.
Yeah, I don't watch too much tv anymore because I usually get the urge to throw something at the screen too. And who wants to be like that? I don't know, it just seems like MSNBC is making a concerted effort. But then again, I went down to basic cable and I no longer watch it. So who knows what's going anymore.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 29 of 116 (332939)
07-18-2006 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by PaulK
07-18-2006 1:39 PM


Re: The Liberal Media
Ypur "Media Research Centre" which proudly states that it is "The Leader in Documenting, Exposing and Meutralising Libearl Merdia Bias" would seem to have an agenda of its own.
In short it might well call a centrist report leftist - especially if it criticised conservatives.
I never said that it wasn't run by a Conservative-based group. But then again, they aren't reporting news, now are they? What they do, and do well, is gather all the data to inform the public who are otherwise blind to it. All they do is point out how certain anchors manipulate the dialogue to get the response they seek or point out what the stories they cover and what they don't. Just watch the videos. It isn't the Media Research Center that is putting the words in the anchors mouths.
This is kind of like how I get flamed for "quote mining," as if I had something to do with answers of other people. I'm just quoting their words. If you want to get mad at someone, get mad at the people who said it. Don't shoot the messenger.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 68 of 116 (333028)
07-18-2006 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by PaulK
07-18-2006 2:29 PM


Re: The Liberal Media
You didn't happen to mentin that the "Media Research Centre" WAS run by a conservative organisation either, did you ?
Its obvious what they believed. It shouldn't even be relevant. Watch the videos. All they did was place the footage on their website.
And your comments about "quote mining" practically admit that the MRC is engaged in misrepresentation by taking quotes out of context or otherwise doctoring them - which is what "quote mining" is.o
The quotes I was referring to did not come from the MRC. So much for that theory.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 70 of 116 (333043)
07-18-2006 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by PaulK
07-18-2006 5:53 PM


Re: The Liberal Media
You really ought to think about your responses. You claimed that MRC presented quotes from other sources and YOU linked that practice to quote mining - which is taking quotes from other people and presenting them out of context or otherwise misrepresenting them. I'm just reporting what you said - and pointing out the implications.
No, you misunderstood me. I said anyone scoffing at that is like when I'm charged with quote mining as if it was I who made the statements.
In other words, blaming the MRC for playing video footage of the liberal media is like blaming me for posting quotes of what somebody else said.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 76 of 116 (333058)
07-18-2006 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by PaulK
07-18-2006 6:17 PM


Re: The Liberal Media
When you are charged with quote mining it MEANS that you took statements made BY OTHER PEOPLE and took them out of context or otherwise misrepresented them. I explained that.
Like I said, you ought to think about your responses. The fact that you don't understand what quote mining is, even after it's just been explained to you hardly makes you look good..
This is becoming tedious. I know what you meant, but its apparent that you misunderstood me, still. And now you are bringing up irrelevant points that I can only assume is an attempt to detract from the actual argument.
For the last time, bringing up the MRC is LIKE how people charge me with quote mining. In other words, its baseless, because the MRC didn't use photoshop to alter the films. The people really did say what they said. Just LIKE how when I quote people, they really say what they really said. MRC's video clips are no more out of text or any less valid than the quotes I use, which are fully applicable to whatever topic we are discussing at that time.
Do you understand what I'm saying? I hope so because I'm not going over it again.

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everyone who asks you a reason for the
hope that is in you.”
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