The problem with EVC

Thanks for that post. It illustrates what I'm trying to get at but I'll have to think it through and get back to you later.Well, I'll answer this much: That's a way of saying it, and I sympathize with your way of sorting it all out, but there's more to it than just "excess." Edited by Faith, : added last section

I haven't forgotten. I'm still mulling over how to frame it.

Perhaps someone can explain how this difference of opinion about FSM is indicative of what's wrong with EvC?--Percy

A general and inherent inability to remain on topic? Sorry.

Take your time. I still want to read Snow and I'm going to get this edition of his book, maybe today, with a certain intro in it that puts the controversy in historical context.

It is because nobody else at EVC will understand that God and the FSM are "logically" the same. Because this is such rigid point of discussion then it derails the whole conversation. If only the rest of EVC knew about "logic" then all of this nonsense would go away.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

It's mentioned in the OP.(admittedly, the OP was vaguely stated).

Yeah, I probably shouldn't use that word "logic" anymoe. Maybe I could say, "It seems reasonable to me . . ."

I think that would go a long way in resolving some of your problems. Then you would eliminate everyone always asking you spell out the logic.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

I do try to spell out why something seems reasonable to me.

Well, trying to peel the onion here, how is something that seems reasonable to you but not to others a problem with EvC?Isn't the problem actually one of unmet expectations, where you think that a simple explanation should be all that is necessary to make your position clear and understood, but that isn't what happens. And where you believe that others should be able to describe their positions equally clearly, and this also doesn't happen.In other words, doesn't it all really boil down to this being harder and more intricate than you thought?--Percy

The problem I was noting in the OP was not receiving replies.

Some have been rather vague about this hardness and intricacy. Some just note that I don't understand logic and the like.

I wasn't referring to the inherent difficulty of the subject material, which I realize some have concluded you're having trouble with, but to the difficulty of clear communication on complex topics. You believe you're capable of understanding, someone else believes they're capable of explaining clearly, yet it isn't happening. That's because discussion boards are a far from ideal venue for accomplishing this. Even tiny baby steps of comprehension deserve plaudits.--Percy

Like I implied before, it was the tone of the responses that I objected to rather than the fact that there was a lack of communication. The lack of communication may have been due to my speaking too briefly on the subject.