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The Case Against the Existence of God

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docpotato
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Message 43 of 301 (301591)
04-06-2006 2:06 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by robinrohan
04-05-2006 8:19 AM

The fact that I feel pain negates an all-good, all-powerful God.
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docpotato
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Message 46 of 301 (301599)
04-06-2006 2:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by jar
04-06-2006 2:09 PM

Re: Not sure I understand that reasoning
o the all-good. all-powerful god would be one that didn't give you a sense of pain? Huh?
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The all-good god would rather you just leave your hand in the fire until it burns off?
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All-good, all-powerful would have no need to create a world in which my hand could either touch the fire or burn off.
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Message 48 of 301 (301602)
04-06-2006 2:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 47 by robinrohan
04-06-2006 2:16 PM

I'm not convinced that because something is subjective it has no meaning.
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Let me go further:
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Even if the meaning of my pain is objectively meaningless, it is still subjectively meaningful to me.
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Message 51 of 301 (301612)
04-06-2006 2:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 49 by jar
04-06-2006 2:21 PM

Re: Not sure I understand that reasoning
still don't understand that reasoning. Challenge is always interesting, usually good.
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An all-powerful God has the ability to determine what is or is not good. Because we, in this universe, feel satisfaction in overcoming obstacles does not mean that the universe has to be set up in such a way that we have obstacles in order to feel the exact same satisfaction.
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The second is that attempts to prove or disprove GOD are fated to fail.
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If GOD exists, She exists reagrdless of any evidence that shows She does not exist.
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If GOD does not exist, then It does not exist reagardless of any evidence that He does exist.
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I agree with this, but it doesn't hurt to examine our beliefs.
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